I had a pretty interesting conversation with a customer at work today regarding Mercedes and AMG. I noticed he drove a C63 so I complimented him on the car, from which he was happy that someone actually noticed what it was and not just another C-Class. We talked about Mercedes and then onto AMG and its history. Parts of our conversation went on about how some mercedes cars and its new AMG versions just dont have that exclusiveness as they once did. From what it seems, that tuners such as Carlsson and Brabus are coming out with much more heavily tuned cars these days compared to AMG. For example with the W212... AMG E63 - 525bhp Carlsson E-CK63 RS - 576bhp Brabus - EV12 - 790bhp The AMG cars are much more subtle in design compared to that of Brabus and Carlsson. It made me think, if AMG were still a separate tuner company like before, how different would things be in terms of the cars they would produce to rival Brabus and Carlsson? Has AMG's decision making been hampered and kept on a leash by Mercedes? I personally think they have got too comfortable and taken a back seat now. Dont get me wrong, im not against AMG but they used to have that complete exclusiveness, especially cars like W124 Hammer. Wasnt that the fastest 186mph saloon back in the day? Just seems things are very different now. What are the panels thoughts on this subject?