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Its very serious and very organised, they have gone to the trouble of setting up a safe address for them to have as a mail drop and address to send the delivery drivers too (probably diverting them when en-route). They probably own that address and put up To Let signs so that if they do ever get caught up with they said they could say that it was leased out at the time.

They would also need a method of getting address and credit card/bank details, for this they usually use bent posties, people who work at banks etc.......

This puts winging about flags being hung the wrong way up and the like in perspective eh?

If you are let down by the system on this, and everyone who should be doing something about it washes their hands of it (Police, Credit Card Company, Insurers, your industry body) then its a very dark day indeed.

However I fear that there are no winners in this case whatever way it goes, the person who is in possesion of the car now is probably unaware and if you get it back they will have lost their money.

Its a very sad case, I suppose some would say that you (as in your dealership not you personaly) should have known better but that the poor sod who has bought it now is the real loser as they couldn't have possibly known anything was wrong. A HPI or a call to the previous owner (I assume it was never registered to you or the dealership) would not have revealed anything wrong.
I read your post and thought “I agree with that!”

I then came to your remark about the flag!!

Early on when this thread was in its infancy the Admin Staff posted a message requesting members stop attempting to go off topic with snide, cutting remarks made against fellow members. (or words very similar) It was felt this thread is important and it belittles us to do exactly what you have done.

What on earth has an upside down flag got to do with this incident? Should we then say how does a deception compare with a suicide bombing?? Of course we don’t, we keep this thread on topic and not attempt to score points. What has happened to Jay is terrible it doesn't need anyone to ask how it compares to 'x', 'y', or 'z'. That remark was aimed squarely at me and had no relevance to this thread, shame on anyone that wants to do what you have just done.

I let you have the last word on the other thread because I thought that might humour you, even though I strongly disagreed with your factually incorrect statements, clearly it hasn’t and you come up with this!

Yes I am guilty of lashing out simply because I am so fed –up with a very few members that seem to enjoy this type of behaviour and yes I am thoroughly fed-up with those that are continually enjoying winding folks up.

Jay,
I am sincerely sorry for my outburst and hopefully an officer has been to take a statement of complaint?

Regards
John
 
Jay,
Just saw this thread, sorry to hear about it, hope things work out in the end.
 
Well having chased the police every day I am officially getting nowhere.

The person to whom i get through just keeps telling me that she doesnt know where the file is and/or who is dealing with it.

She then went on to lecture me by stating that the car is never going to come back to me... She said that why should the police get involved when the person who now owns the car may have bought the car in good faith.

I tried to converse with this woman but she was having none of it.
She has had a long career in the police and knows how these things turn out and in her experience I can forget about my hard earned cash.
Why should the person who has bought the car suffer?

I tried to explain to her that every solicitor I have spoken to says the car belongs to me, her response was well you dont have a log book in your name so its not yours!
Im a dealer, none of the cars are in my name, we dont have to put them in our own name, doesnt mean they belong to mr X in W9

Whatever I tried to explain she would not have a word of. She just kept saying well i dont know what we are going to do about this, we dont know what is going to happen, but im pretty certain you will not see the car again and it may be weeks before we even start any enquiries.

I cant believe that a crime this serious is still stuck in someones paper tray and nothing is being done.

This is what makes our Police look bad. I understand that no one has been hurt, no one has been killed, but these people will be ripping off businesses around the country and something needs to be done.

She has really wound me up to point of snapping.

Can anyone suggest whom I can write to with my concerns? I really dont understand the police system very well but nothing is being done and its seriously causing some stress now, especially after the other theft too.

Thanks

Jay
 
Jay

I have been reading this thread with interest, and I think there are 2 paths of escalation.

One is the Independent Police Complaints Commission
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/

The other more radical step could be the tabloids, but then you are in the hands of the journalists who may manipulate things for their own ends.

I would start with the IPCC.
 
Jay

I would suggest speaking to a specialist solictor again. They may be able to take steps to recover the car through different chanels. You could also suggest to the police that you are taking this step, and that they are being left behind.

David
 
This isn't getting any better for you is it? :(

I cant speak from experience, but I wonder if, now that you have two crimes being covered by two different forces, the suggestion that they may be linked in an 'organised' way might galvinise somebody.

Tried to be subtle, but hopefully you get my drift...
 
I said early on if you get a good copper you may get somewhere.. but this is predictable.:eek:

If you knew someone in the force or if someone in the force had a connection to your problem, you'd see the wheels move and some.

Escalate your predicament to the most senior plod on the force that is dealing with your case... you might get lucky?

Good Luck.
 
:eek: Just read Jay's post.
 
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John

I agree, partly. But at the moment no progress is being made at all. A solicitor may say leave it to the Police, or may say take some other action.

In my limited experience if the Police think it may be a civil matter they will just try their very best to let it go away in any case.

I would just be concerned that time is ticking away, and while it would be nice for the crooks to be caught, Jay's interests may be better protected down the civil route, should the current in-action prevail.

David
 
John

I agree, partly. But at the moment no progress is being made at all. A solicitor may say leave it to the Police, or may say take some other action.

In my limited experience if the Police think it may be a civil matter they will just try their very best to let it go away in any case.

I would just be concerned that time is ticking away, and while it would be nice for the crooks to be caught, Jay's interests may be better protected down the civil route, should the current in-action prevail.

David
Hi David,
I'm not very with it today and somehow missed Jay's post. I fully agree with what you have said and it is something I have voiced privately to Jay.:eek: :eek:

If there is no communication between the complainant and the officer in the case, then alarm bells should be ringing.

I cannot understand how this S-class can be put onto a Police Computer as being stolen, (or suspect) if there has not been a complaint made in writing? (statement)

Unfortunately it's a fact of life that if we start loosing our temper with anyone, then we loose the high ground. I'm not defending anyone, I am being realistic.

I believe that if Jay has not had any official communications with the officer in the case then your right.

Stage one would be to employ the services of a very good lawyer. Do NOT waste your money on cheap representation. Get advice and see what they recommend.

I fear i may have to start thinking about uncrossing my fingers.

Regards
John
 
No problem. I just wish this would get resolved for Jay.

Also every time I see his post I just have to click on his website where there is a very tempting 55 S320 CDi. I am intentionally avoiding the west midlands at the moment as I do not want an excuse to be in the area!

David
 
Early on when this thread was in its infancy the Admin Staff posted a message requesting members stop attempting to go off topic with snide, cutting remarks made against fellow members. (or words very similar) It was felt this thread is important and it belittles us to do exactly what you have done.

You just took the thread so far off topic as to make your complaint about my post seem ridiculous, as I have said before you are in no position to moderate mine or anyone Else's post so get off your soap box :D
 
Why does this development not suprise me :rolleyes:

I experienced similar trouble when reporting online fruad for a mobile phone I sold, and in short it was a hijacked paypal account with a new phoney address.

You could go the complaints route, and also the route of the gutter press, and I'd be all for that but you need to probably build up a casefile of incompetence first.

Its not in your best interests to antagonise the police if you want their assistance in helping you get your car back, and this Stolen issue, deal with them politely, ask to speak to this womans superior, maybe even show up in promtue asking to see someone. Going the complaints route is very much a last resort.

One thing the police won't want is a car like that falling into the wrong hands and been used as criminal's driving machine.
 
Jay -- this log book thing has me confused... surely if you sold the car you still have the logbook -- all the con man has is the little green slip... and until you have sent it off it is still in your hands....

If the other person (new owner) bought the car -- why didnt they ask to see the log book???

That alone is enough to caste doubts so how can they have bought it in good faith.??

Just some thoughts
 
I have written to a senior Sergeant at Nuneaton today, lets see what happens.

I think from your previous post that you could have a field day with them if you make some decent notes of what you were told by the woman at the police station.

Bottom line is to get them to a position where in writing they have to declare that either no crime has occurred or a crime has occured but they will do nothing further about it.

Then punt that response to your MP or make a complaint.
 
Thanks all..

Crockers - The car had just undergone a plate transfer, all I had was the little green slip stamped by the DVLA which I gave with the car..

Im assuming the new owner bought the car on the basis of that and then applied to be a new keeper.

Dryce - Thanks, will see what heppens, dont want to annoy anyone at this stage, just get them to do something as it seems to be being put on the back burner for now.
 

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