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Some years ago I would watch Springer some, until I realised how low it was as a programme.
It intentionally put people into confrontational situations, to do their disgusting washing in a public arena.
The very titles of each part of the programme were designed to draw those with a strange facination in how some people can be in such a low place so as to make many feel they are better than that, I assume.

Then along came Kyle, same horrible stuff.

All this purports to do these participants a good thing by airing their issues, or increasing their awareness by the confessions of those that are / were close.
The fact that there are bouncers in the wings demonstrates the expected response of many participants, it adds to the entertainment for some. The design is obvious.

For years I've held the view that Springer and Kyle, and possibly more of their production management, should be prosecuted for inciting violence.
If any of us walked into a pub, for example, and started using these 'facts' to inform somebody of what others had done against them we would be held to account, wouldn't we?
 

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The difference being that anyone signing up to appear on the program can hardly argue that the aggressive/confrontational tone came as a surprise, and I guess the appropriate waivers have been signed, which is entirely different than you sitting in a pub and someone starting into you like that.

What's the motive of those appearing, maybe 10% think it's the best way to resolve an issue, another x% are perhaps vunerable and easy to pursuade to come onto the show, and I suspect a majority see it as a way of being on TV and having their 10 mins etc.

It's carcrash TV, and clearly there is a demand for it, as reflected in it's viewing figures.
 

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Muck raking voyerism at its worst. I'm surprised that shows like this are tolerated at all. Jeremy Kyle et al getting fat at the expense of people's 'problems' is sick. Good riddance to his programme.
 

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They'll be after compensation next. I can't believe it's the most popular day time show, just sick.

I'm retiring soon. If I resort to daytime Tv they can put me down.
 
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It's carcrash TV, and clearly there is a demand for it, as reflected in it's viewing figures.
No argument there but I'm not so sure that justifies or excuses the existance.
There are many like a good scrap after the football, most know what they're doing and the risks but it's still illegal for good reason.

The, not so surprising, revalations by an ex runner for the Kyle show is some evidence of the incitement by the producers. While not proof positive some more investigation could be revealing.
The participants aren't just brought together to work out their issues, the whole thing is designed for extreme responses.
It is incitment, and since violence was a common outcome, well.
 

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Commercial television exists to sell advertising air time-- to that end it needs viewing figures. The Jeremy Kyle show-- ITV's most popular daytime show regularly pulled in over a million viewers. So also complicit in this tawdry TV spectacle were the viewers who regularly watched it and the firms who bought screen advertising on the show. No viewers=no show.
 

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Hi,
These programs generally feature and are watched by people below average IQ level - this makes them easy to manipulate.
I am sure they are offered hotel stay, chauffeur to/from studio and McDonalds vouchers to appear on these loathsome shows for their 5 minutes of infamy.
Modern day version of bear baiting or village idiot baiting.
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The audience would be the same as those watching slaves getting butchered in the Colliseum.
 

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Zoo TV. Goodbye, and good riddance, to it.
 

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“Poverty porn” was the best description I heard - the show serves very little purpose other than to try and make people think they’re superior to these folk with not a great deal going for them.
 

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Knew of it, never watched it.

Was told in an interview not long ago that most 'contestants' stated that staying in a hotel (just a Prem Inn many times) was the reason or highlight.
Surely some had stayed in hotels before (again I didn't watch it)

Sad though, whatever, that that chap had his life so turned upside down that he felt the need to end it

It is Mental Health Awareness week - I believe the decision timing is not a coincidence..
 

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And yet after 2 suicides, Love Island is still in production?

There is way too much voyeristic rubbish on tv, Naked Dating, Embarassing bodies et al.

The TV watchdogs/ programming editors etc have a lot to answer for.
 

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Commercial television audiences continue to fall in common with the older established print media as the new more digitally-oriented generations turn to the internet, phones and social media portals for their source of news/entertainment. I imagine this is encouraging the older established mass market media to employ increasingly questionable content in a desperate attempt to win back the viewing audience figures?
 
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Commercial television audiences continue to fall in common with the older established print media as the new more digitally-oriented generations turn to the internet, phones and social media portals for their source of news/entertainment. I imagine this is encouraging the older established mass market media to employ increasingly questionable content in a desperate attempt to win back the viewing audience figures?
Maybe the TV companies realise that the older generation are more likely to keep viewing because they are less likely to switch to online content so, as a result, they need to make programmes to attract the more fickle viewers?
 

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And yet after 2 suicides, Love Island is still in production?

There is way too much voyeristic rubbish on tv, Naked Dating, Embarassing bodies et al.

The TV watchdogs/ programming editors etc have a lot to answer for.
TV companies love making this type of crap for two reasons - firstly it’s popular with the daytime audiences of lazy scrounges with low intelligence and secondly - they are very cheap to make!
 

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No argument there but I'm not so sure that justifies or excuses the existance.
There are many like a good scrap after the football, most know what they're doing and the risks but it's still illegal for good reason.

The, not so surprising, revalations by an ex runner for the Kyle show is some evidence of the incitement by the producers. While not proof positive some more investigation could be revealing.
The participants aren't just brought together to work out their issues, the whole thing is designed for extreme responses.
It is incitment, and since violence was a common outcome, well.
I don't disagree with any of the above, but if a view is taken that it should be illegal, then it's far from the only such program that is guilty. I know that big brother is no more, but after the first series or so, the producers contrived various ways of setting one set of participants against others, to illicit verbally very agressive behaviour. It was even clear from the group that went in, that a top criterium was to have people that would not like some of the other contestants. And of course dozen of cameras for the public to voyeur it all.

Then you have, as has already been mentioned, love island. How lower can you go on personal manipulation than have a entire program that's about setting the scene for personal sexual encounters, and then filming the lead up and the breakdowns etc.

Although nowhere near the same level of intensity, "I'm a celebrity" is increasingly deliberately pitting some contestants against others, have two different camps, elevating some to king or lords in a nice bed environment with great food, whilst others sleep rough on minimal rations, to see if they can deliberately extract disharmony and confrontation. So should that be allowed ? is it ok as long as it never gets physical ?, at what point do you draw a line ?

I tell you, it'll not be long before the great british bake off allows contestants to start sabotagging each others food !
 
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I don't disagree with any of the above, but if a view is taken that it should be illegal, then it's far from the only such program that is guilty. I know that big brother is no more, but after the first series or so, the producers contrived various ways of setting one set of participants against others, to illicit verbally very agressive behaviour. It was even clear from the group that went in, that a top criterium was to have people that would not like some of the other contestants. And of course dozen of cameras for the public to voyeur it all.

Then you have, as has already been mentioned, love island. How lower can you go on personal manipulation than have a entire program that's about setting the scene for personal sexual encounters, and then filming the lead up and the breakdowns etc.

Although nowhere near the same level of intensity, "I'm a celebrity" is increasingly deliberately pitting some contestants against others, have two different camps, elevating some to king or lords in a nice bed environment with great food, whilst others sleep rough on minimal rations, to see if they can deliberately extract disharmony and confrontation. So should that be allowed ? is it ok as long as it never gets physical ?, at what point do you draw a line ?

I tell you, it'll not be long before the great british bake off allows contestants to start sabotagging each others food !
You know a lot about these programmes, I hope that you’re not one of the lazy scroungers referred to above.
 

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