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  1. Koolvin

    Koolvin Administrator Staff Member

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    Isn't it ironic how we were all talking about replacment key fobs that mine died today <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('> luckily i had a spare!
     
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    Simon Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    What happened, did it just quit without warning?
     
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    yep, tried unlocking the car but no joy, I noticed the red LED on the door and RVM was not flashing.... so I thought must be a flat battery on the car... I confirmed the Key's battery was dead because if you hold it down a red light flashes -

    So now I was begining to think it was both my key fob and car - anyway I opened the car with the key - (Alarm didnt go of) but the interior dome light and dash lit up - odd...

    I changed th ekeyfob batteries and nothing - zilch - so I got my spare MINT-NEVER-USED key fob and bunged the batteries in that - voila, working keyfob and alarm....

    I now have to order a new key from the Stealership! I am just glad I was at home and not out shopping or summing <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>

    Time to sign up for AA or RAC imo
     
  4. Aletank

    Aletank Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    I've just ordered a new key on Friday, I've only had my car 6 weeks and only got 1 key with it &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
    I enquired at the dealaship and they said I needed my V5 document so after 6 weeks it finally came with a spellin mistake in my name &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
    The dealership let me order my key and I've sent the V5 back again to get rectified.
    I've been told that the new keys now are smaller than my original
    The cost for these replacements are
    Key £37.51 + VAT
    Key Blade 9.05 + VAT
    Total inc VAT £54.71
    The key is available next day and the blade takes 7-10 days.

    The dealership just puts in your VIN number and gets all the info for your car from that, Amazin hey &nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>
     
  5. Steve_Perry

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    Aletank,

    Thanks for the info man <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

    My car came with 2 keys, one old style and one the smaller new style. I never got the emergency blade key &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Thanks for the price info, I might just invest in some spares.

    I think you might like the new style key as it comes with a snazzy chrome M.B. star embossed on the back.

    Just out of interest... what are the odds of my key opening another MB car?

    S.
     
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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Steve_Perry @ Aug. 27 2002,20:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just out of interest... what are the odds of my key opening another MB car?

    S.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
    with the IR = 0%
    with the key = dunno
     
  7. GrahamC230K

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    I only had the original big key and the emergency &quot;wllaet&quot; or &quot;blade&quot; &nbsp;key when I bought mine.

    I ordered the a new normal key and got the new smaller one with the chrome star.

    You get a choice of coloured end catches too.

    My dealer also said, that if I wanted, next time my car was in his workshop (yeah right&#33<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> thry could program the car so only the keys I have operate the car, so anyone who happened to have any of the missing keys could no longer use them.
     
  8. Aletank

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    I went to pick my new key up today and guess what !! It didn't work &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'>
    The electronic part does but the blade never, It looked similar but you could see quite clearly it was different. The parts guy checked on his computer to make sure the cars never had a lock change, which it hasn't. As I say it did look similar but it was definatly not the same &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
    The parts guy said it must of been cut wrong and has ordered another blade, I just hope the new one works now when that arrives in 7-10 days.
     
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    That's a good point...

    I've never tested the mechanical blade part of either of my keys, I only ever use the remote central locking. Heh, shows how lazy I am... seems like too much work to peel off the driver's side keylock cover, hehe.

    S.
     
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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">seems like too much work to peel off the driver's side keylock cover, hehe.
    </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Thats why I just tried it in the &nbsp;glove box lock &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;LOL
    But once it didn't work there I looked at it and compared it to my orignal.
     
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    Heh good point Aletank, I think I'll just compare both my blade elements from both keys, I know both transmitters and immobilisers work.

    S.
     
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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I went to pick my new key up today and guess what !! It didn't work &nbsp;
    The electronic part does but the blade never, It looked similar but you could see quite clearly it was different. The parts guy checked on his computer to make sure the cars never had a lock change, which it hasn't. As I say it did look similar but it was definatly not the same &nbsp;
    The parts guy said it must of been cut wrong and has ordered another blade, I just hope the new one works now when that arrives in 7-10 days.

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    I just picked my second blade up today and it works &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'> &nbsp;The parts guy said the first must of been cut wrong or they just put the wrong key in the bag.
    This new key too(The Electronic Part), If you press the unlock button once it unlocks the drivers door only and If you press it twice all the doors open. I suppose this way it saves on unecessary ware and tare on the other door locks. As I'm in the car on my own most of the time this is a OK feature for me &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>
     
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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Aletank @ Sep. 04 2002,16:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I went to pick my new key up today and guess what !! It didn't work  
    The electronic part does but the blade never, It looked similar but you could see quite clearly it was different. The parts guy checked on his computer to make sure the cars never had a lock change, which it hasn't. As I say it did look similar but it was definatly not the same  
    The parts guy said it must of been cut wrong and has ordered another blade, I just hope the new one works now when that arrives in 7-10 days.

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    I just picked my second blade up today and it works  <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>  The parts guy said the first must of been cut wrong or they just put the wrong key in the bag.
    This new key too(The Electronic Part), If you press the unlock button once it unlocks the drivers door only and If you press it twice all the doors open. I suppose this way it saves on unecessary ware and tare on the other door locks. As I'm in the car on my own most of the time this is a OK feature for me  <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
    you can change that function so on one press it opens all the doors and also revert it back <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
     
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    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you can change that function so on one press it opens all the doors and also revert it back</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

    Hows it done then Koolvin ? I thought all the programing/changing functions had to be done in the workshop &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':('>
     
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    If I recall, you have to depress the &quot;open&quot; and Close&quot; button together once... &nbsp;This is all from memory so it might not be right. &nbsp;It's in the owners manual
     
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    You press the unlock and lock buttons together until the red light flashes.

    If you then press the unlock button on the dash the the drivers door will open first press, the rest second press.

    OR

    If you then press the lock button on the dash all locks open with the first press.

    (maybe vice versa)

    This feature is to try to stop car theft where you open the car and as you get into the drivers door a thief gets into the passenger door(or opens the boot).

    This happend to a friend of mine in a Golf GTI which was taken at gunpoint.....Tracker saves the day &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
     
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    Thanks for the replys guys &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'> &nbsp;I just read my hand book, It's in the Exterior section on page 7. To swop functions you hold down the lock &amp; unlock buttons simultanously for 6 seconds
     
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    I prefer the default option where the driver's door unlocks first then all doors on the second press. I have changed to the other function then changed it back just to see it work, sad eh?

    I believe you can also &quot;deadlock&quot; the boot-lid so that it doesn't unlock when you unlock the car but instead have to unlock the boot separately... handy when transporting gold bullion <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

    <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

    S.
     
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    Just after I got my car I set the central locking to unlock the drivers door with one press and all doors on the second press, very clever and an important safety point I reckon, same as the automatic locking whilst moving.

    However, I cant work out the unlocking sequence when getting out of the car! Sometimes all doors will unlock with the drivers door, other times just the drivers door unlocks. I have tried with the key in the ignition, out, switched on etc, but cannot seem to get a pattern to how or why the doors unlock in a certain sequence.

    Can anybody shed any light?
     
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    I think (I could be wrong)...

    If you unlock drivers door only, then drive and all doors lock, when you open drivers door only that door will unlock.

    If you unlock all doors, drive, doors lock etc, when you open drivers door hey presto all doors unlock.

    The car remembers how you unlocked it in the first place.

    S.
     
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