It's rather more than two votes. In a discussion today with some chaps from work who freely admit to similar issues. Several mentioned that undoing their belt seemed to do the trick. I'm going to give that a go. Better endure the looks of my fellow men than the looks of alarmed women if I fail. I also like the suggestion of camouflage (earlier post). It brought back a great memory of a beautiful summers day and a visit with my in-laws to lovely country pub in Sussex. FIL "popped"to the loo in his prized M&S chino's arriving back drenched below the waist and cursing the wash hand basin. To my great amusement, we then watched as most of the toilet visitors emerged soaked and furtively glancing around. A plunger tap was the culprit.