Locking wheel nut key flower snap .

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So my tyre just explode. I've been trying to undo the bolts and when it come to the locking wheel nut key the flower on the key snapped and now it's left inside the locking nut on the wheel... What are my options? Any chance I can remove and how the flower from the nut or how do I remove the whole nut? Is drilling the only option?
 

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Oh look , another snapped 'anti theft' wheel bolt just like the one on here recently. See what we all had to say about the last one :thumb:


 
Oh look , another snapped 'anti theft' wheel bolt just like the one on here recently. See what we all had to say about the last one :thumb:


Yes but I don't need new locking wheel nut key. I need to remove the locking wheel nut from the wheel. Went to tyre place and they said they can't do it as Mercedes has "spinning nut"
I can't drive the car as the tyre is cut...
 
Whereabouts are you? There are specialists who can remove broken or damaged locking wheel bolts without a key. I can recommend one in Birmingham.
 
Whereabouts are you? There are specialists who can remove broken or damaged locking wheel bolts without a key. I can recommend one in Birmingham.
 
Just abut any mobile tyre fitter could do it , just let them know before calling them out. While you are at it just try to undo the other 3 to check if they have been overtightened as well.
 
Bloody fitters using power tools instead of doing a final torque up.
 
I have seen tyre fitters rattle up wheel nuts with the air wrench and then reach for the torque wrench 'click' click, click ,click click ..OK , job done ...without the torque wrench even moving through an arc.

So whatever the rattle gun is set at , that's what you are getting. :(
 
I have seen tyre fitters rattle up wheel nuts with the air wrench and then reach for the torque wrench 'click' click, click ,click click ..OK , job done ...without the torque wrench even moving through an arc.

So whatever the rattle gun is set at , that's what you are getting. :(

I wonder if anyone ever trained them to use a torque wrench. Two bites at torqueing a bolt doesn't normally work well. They should be slackened off and then re-torqued to have any chance of the torque wrench producing close to accurate results.

When anyone else has had my wheels off the first thing I do when I get home is slacken each bolt in turn and re-torque them correctly. Even if they have over tightened them the earlier you do this the easier it will be.
 
I had exactly the same problem as the OP, following a visit to the (usually excellent) Micheldever tyre services.
Expecting a ferocious battle to extract the broken bit from the wheel nut, I found it came out really easily with the help of a sharply pointed scraper and electrical pliers. 10 minute job to my surprise.
Ian.
 
No idea why manufacturer still use these because they don't steal wheels now they just take the whole car..............







Or is it because they can't get the locking key off..........
 
I had a steering joint replaced on another merc i had at an mot station, when i went to pick the car up he put a snapped socket on the counter and said you want to get another one of those its snapped, i replied No you want to get another one of the because you snapped it with you gun on the wrong tork. The reply was Errr ok we will order you one it will be here tomorrow, i said so will my car because i'm not driving it without a new socket because if i get a puncture i can't get the wheel off and i walked away and went back the next day to collect it. The trouble is they are all idiots, when you get tyres fitted and say make sure the fitting dots are in the right place and there's not a mark on them wheels so you better no mark them, they look at you as if you are mad. And yes i am mad about something thats immaculate and some Di** wants to spoil.
 
When anyone else has had my wheels off the first thing I do when I get home is slacken each bolt in turn and re-torque them correctly. Even if they have over tightened them the earlier you do this the easier it will be.

I do the same.

As you state - even overtightened they do loosen much more easily straight after than later on.
 
No idea why manufacturer still use these because they don't steal wheels now they just take the whole car..............







Or is it because they can't get the locking key off..........
As I understand it MB do not fit them as standard from the factory on new UK cars , they are fitted at the dealership , or so that is what I have heard .
 
As I understand it MB do not fit them as standard from the factory on new UK cars , they are fitted at the dealership , or so that is what I have heard .
‘tis true, that’s why the original bolts can be found in the same box as the locking key.
 

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