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Long overdue new member intro - ULEZ caused me to become an AMG E63 S211 owner !

Vincyby

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Location
London
Car
E63 Estate W211
Hi Members, I must say, that this forum has been great help to me through the very rich forms of discussion, excellent knowledge and experiences shared by the members, both experienced and new. I have been experiencing Mercedes cars during the last 23 years. Two company cars S203 and S203 1.8 Kompressor, great business and family cars. Then on leaving the corporate world purchased a 2006 S211 CDI @ 52k miles in obsidian black (what a great colour, changes with light). This car, I was happy to keep for a very long time, as it covered thousands of miles on tours and holidays and met every family demand, economical (two tanks to Portugal), serviced by Mercedes, and yes controls arms, ball joints, black death injectors changed, and water pump as a precaution, were the main mechanical expenses. 2018 outer London( inside north circ) ULEZ was announced, so on checking, my S211 @ 205k miles was non compliant. On checking my wife's Lexus RX300 2003, to my astonishment it was compliant with ULEZ, so in 2019 my next move was to find a compliant petrol S211 ( Didn't like W212 design and the paint looked thin on the panels and no interest in AD blue tech). So on browsing as you do, I was looking for late 2007-9 petrol variants, and then I saw a stunning silver E63 S211 advertised by a classic car dealer AutoStorico . I then spent hours on this forum reading as much as possible about AMG with the m156 (headbolts etc), checked MOT's etc. Made an appointment for a test drive, asking William the owner to start the drive at pace as I had never driven a 500+BHP car down narrow country lanes. Then took over, to see if my wife would be able to drive it. William provided a 6 month insurance warranty and when considering the high value quality cars he sold and his experience I felt confident he had a reputation to maintain and committed to buying the 2006 AMG E63 @ 92k miles.
I have no doubt that this car may have been owned by a current or past forum member/s as there was a label "AMG collection" on the rear window.

The car is fully loaded, HK sound, 7 seats, 2 rear passenger video screens in front seat head rest's, two additional screens in the tail gate, reversing camera, 19" classic split rims plus numerous other features.

She is a keeper as it's a very rear model car, with a long lived stylish design which is not dated and provides a lot of satisfaction.
I expect things to go wrong or wear out as she is 17 years old but as a member of Mercedes Club and an avid reader of this forum ( I have read almost all the posts on the historical AMG part of the forum) the information will help.

Service is by Mercedes on a 4 year service plan and will renew.

Mechanicals
Replaced rear break hoses as advised
Serpentine belt
Rear flex disc's
Replaced leaking front oil cooler (6 month warranty)
Gearbox fluid, filter, plugs etc
Split rims re-sprayed and coated by Just Wheels in Halstead Essex (great job) recently

DIYed jobs
Personally I feel the M156 is the last AMG Mercedes V8 for the DIYer like myself with basic engine knowledge and basic skills with tools to work on. This is part of the fun for me owing this car.

Installed new battery. If you see the RED ESP warning suddenly appearing on your dash, check the SAM's supply voltages using a diagnostic tool, you may find them giving a "under voltage" error message due to a weakening battery.

Invested in Xtool D7 diagnostic kit which has paid back some investment for the battery diagnosis and when coil pack on No 5 cylinder gave up and was diagnosed as causing rough running. All coil packs have since been replaced.

Frayed serpentine belt, broke thermostat expansion tank connector (loss coolant not far from home). Decided to replace thermostat, all idler wheels, tensioner and serpentine belt.

Recently replaced all the old injectors as these can cause catastrophic failure to an aged engine such as mine.

Future Jobs being considered
Expansion tanks due to crumbling inlet pipe.
Change PCV (it's ok but 2006 date)
Check the outside condition of the intake manifold
Inspect the camshafts
Steering fluid filter housing and fluid
Check type of head bolts (It seems this failure is very rear in Europe)


Experience
What is there to say other than, its an event to get behind the wheel, fast or slow, 12 hours behind the wheel is no stress in the most comfortable function rich seats.
I am always driving the long way round.
Received many nice comments and the local car wash guys love to wash her when I don't, She has many characters, but she is not abused, but must work, moving the family on UK or euro road trips, cruising, with heavy luggage, roof box @ 80+ or going to the local dump on the odd weekend with waste. She as a Mercedes estate is at her best when fully loaded, as was my S203's, S211 CDi. The air suspension is fantastic. The stock performance is frightening, so no need to modify for more power at present and the stock exhaust note is nice and variable, quite or raucous when in the mood.

Thanks for your time as its taken me too long to write this up, but now retired I look forward to enjoying our shared interest no matter what the model is.


Car history
Vauhall Viva
Vauxhall Cavalier (Mrk 1) (I converted to electronic ignition)
Opel Monza GSE 3.0 ( Digital dash, great engine, great cruiser, great styling) I should have kept her
Vauxhall Cavalier (Mrk2) company
Rover 600 company
BMW 3 series company
S203 1.8 company
S203 K1.8 company
 

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Handsome. Similar to mine, bar the wheels, 3rd row of seats and a few bhp that I wouldn't know how to use.

Great write up.

You mentioned renewing the four year MB service plan. Mine has had 15 main dealer services, so presumably it might be eligible. What kind of lolly is involved to get a service plan at this age?
 
Handsome. Similar to mine, bar the wheels, 3rd row of seats and a few bhp that I wouldn't know how to use.

Great write up.

You mentioned renewing the four year MB service plan. Mine has had 15 main dealer services, so presumably it might be eligible. What kind of lolly is involved to get a service plan at this age?
What an amazing car all round; engine, spec and an usual and very desirable interior colour.

Keep the updates coming.
Mike and Londonscottish
Many thanks, I think I was just lucky to stumble across her on the web.

My current service plan cost's me £53 per month (fixed) includes Europe wide roadside assistance and the last of the 4 services is due soon.
I have noticed on the web, that MB have changed the service plan to include MOT's + Europe wide roadside assistance and are now quoting £83 per month for 4 service/MOT's for E63 older than 36 months. Previously there was a fixed price list by model, including all older models E55 etc. You can put in your reg and model and expected annual mileage and age 36 months + (for older models) and it will calculate it for you. MB have change the costing model for the service.
I will review when the time comes, but my main reason for using MB, is there are no trusted local workshops I can take it to, and Europe roadside support.
 
Welcome to the forum and awesome write up. 👋🙂

You have a sister car on this forum, with an M156 engine and I know the feeling you mentioned about keeping her for life. The guy who i brought mine from had water in his eyes, I thought he was about to cry on the day I took her away to her new home. Her is a photo of mine, she had some fair amount of unnecessary engine upgrades with black series parts 🙂

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Lovely looking motor and great write up.
Welcome to the forum:thumb:
AMGeed, many thanks. Like others, I have more than enough respect for your knowledge and experience.
Welcome to the forum and awesome write up. 👋🙂

You have a sister car on this forum, with an M156 engine and I know the feeling you mentioned about keeping her for life. The guy who i brought mine from had water in his eyes, I thought he was about to cry on the day I took her away to her new home. Her is a photo of mine, she had some fair amount of unnecessary engine upgrades with black series parts 🙂

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Badgx,
Your machine looks stunning with those nicely styled wheels filling the arch's :thumb:. I have followed your journey on the forum and it inspired me to get into changing the injectors as a precaution etc. Your work in refreshing the intake manifold was great and encouraging to see it was possible to do at home from the DIY point of view. Probably like me you are a Tasos fan, I can't stop watching him work and share his knowledge. Since I intend to keep her for life the upgrading to black series engine internal parts is of interest long term, but i am expecting the usual suspects, such as alternator, water pump,and air suspension components to go at any time so may renew those first.
 
AMGeed, many thanks. Like others, I have more than enough respect for your knowledge and experience.

Badgx,
Your machine looks stunning with those nicely styled wheels filling the arch's :thumb:. I have followed your journey on the forum and it inspired me to get into changing the injectors as a precaution etc. Your work in refreshing the intake manifold was great and encouraging to see it was possible to do at home from the DIY point of view. Probably like me you are a Tasos fan, I can't stop watching him work and share his knowledge. Since I intend to keep her for life the upgrading to black series engine internal parts is of interest long term, but i am expecting the usual suspects, such as alternator, water pump,and air suspension components to go at any time so may renew those first.

Glad to hear my posts have been of help 🙂 and yes like you I'm most definitely a fan of Tasos and subscribed to his channel, awesome guy with a great deal of content. Managed to learn a lot from his channel, especially around his videos on timing and the camshaft adjusters. The m156 is actually a very good engine, definitely consider changing the injectors once every 60k and keep up on regular oil change and servicing. You have an awesome car there 👌👍🙂
 
lovely car, enjoy!
 
You can put in your reg and model and expected annual mileage and age 36 months + (for older models) and it will calculate it for you.
Thanks for this. Sadly the website spits out my 2008 E500 “because of age” even though it’s been MD seeviced annually. Presumably they renew old contracts but don’t take on new.

Not to worry, I’ve never had any issues with the V8’s this far, thanks to the Indy’s I’ve used, but it was interesting to ponder the idea.

Good luck and may your god go with you on this on. You’ve certainly done your research and bought a great S211
 
Looks a great car just as a side issue you say ULEZ made you buy it,just for peoples info we do have a number older members who maybe get PIP payments if any do they can contact ULEZ and they will extend your diesel car exemtion until 2027
 
Very very nice car, great write up. I was also stuck on the 'Previous Cars' section The Opel Monza 3.0 GSE, I had one back in the 1980's although mine was a silver and red velour Vauxhall Royale Coupe ( 2.8 litre straight 6 rather than the lovely 3.0 litre yours had ) Like you i feel like i should have kept it!
 
Looks a great car just as a side issue you say ULEZ made you buy it,just for peoples info we do have a number older members who maybe get PIP payments if any do they can contact ULEZ and they will extend your diesel car exemtion until 2027

Just Googled it - full details here:


(Queue posts querying "so if you are disabled is it OK to pollute?")

My guess is that it will not apply to very many people though, because most disabled people I know have cars leased via Motability, and these have to be new cars on a 3 years lease, so unlikely to be old Diesel cars, but obviously some people with mobility allowance will own their own cars.
 
Hi Members, I must say, that this forum has been great help to me through the very rich forms of discussion, excellent knowledge and experiences shared by the members, both experienced and new. I have been experiencing Mercedes cars during the last 23 years. Two company cars S203 and S203 1.8 Kompressor, great business and family cars. Then on leaving the corporate world purchased a 2006 S211 CDI @ 52k miles in obsidian black (what a great colour, changes with light). This car, I was happy to keep for a very long time, as it covered thousands of miles on tours and holidays and met every family demand, economical (two tanks to Portugal), serviced by Mercedes, and yes controls arms, ball joints, black death injectors changed, and water pump as a precaution, were the main mechanical expenses. 2018 outer London( inside north circ) ULEZ was announced, so on checking, my S211 @ 205k miles was non compliant. On checking my wife's Lexus RX300 2003, to my astonishment it was compliant with ULEZ, so in 2019 my next move was to find a compliant petrol S211 ( Didn't like W212 design and the paint looked thin on the panels and no interest in AD blue tech). So on browsing as you do, I was looking for late 2007-9 petrol variants, and then I saw a stunning silver E63 S211 advertised by a classic car dealer AutoStorico . I then spent hours on this forum reading as much as possible about AMG with the m156 (headbolts etc), checked MOT's etc. Made an appointment for a test drive, asking William the owner to start the drive at pace as I had never driven a 500+BHP car down narrow country lanes. Then took over, to see if my wife would be able to drive it. William provided a 6 month insurance warranty and when considering the high value quality cars he sold and his experience I felt confident he had a reputation to maintain and committed to buying the 2006 AMG E63 @ 92k miles.
I have no doubt that this car may have been owned by a current or past forum member/s as there was a label "AMG collection" on the rear window.

The car is fully loaded, HK sound, 7 seats, 2 rear passenger video screens in front seat head rest's, two additional screens in the tail gate, reversing camera, 19" classic split rims plus numerous other features.

She is a keeper as it's a very rear model car, with a long lived stylish design which is not dated and provides a lot of satisfaction.
I expect things to go wrong or wear out as she is 17 years old but as a member of Mercedes Club and an avid reader of this forum ( I have read almost all the posts on the historical AMG part of the forum) the information will help.

Service is by Mercedes on a 4 year service plan and will renew.

Mechanicals
Replaced rear break hoses as advised
Serpentine belt
Rear flex disc's
Replaced leaking front oil cooler (6 month warranty)
Gearbox fluid, filter, plugs etc
Split rims re-sprayed and coated by Just Wheels in Halstead Essex (great job) recently

DIYed jobs
Personally I feel the M156 is the last AMG Mercedes V8 for the DIYer like myself with basic engine knowledge and basic skills with tools to work on. This is part of the fun for me owing this car.

Installed new battery. If you see the RED ESP warning suddenly appearing on your dash, check the SAM's supply voltages using a diagnostic tool, you may find them giving a "under voltage" error message due to a weakening battery.

Invested in Xtool D7 diagnostic kit which has paid back some investment for the battery diagnosis and when coil pack on No 5 cylinder gave up and was diagnosed as causing rough running. All coil packs have since been replaced.

Frayed serpentine belt, broke thermostat expansion tank connector (loss coolant not far from home). Decided to replace thermostat, all idler wheels, tensioner and serpentine belt.

Recently replaced all the old injectors as these can cause catastrophic failure to an aged engine such as mine.

Future Jobs being considered
Expansion tanks due to crumbling inlet pipe.
Change PCV (it's ok but 2006 date)
Check the outside condition of the intake manifold
Inspect the camshafts
Steering fluid filter housing and fluid
Check type of head bolts (It seems this failure is very rear in Europe)


Experience
What is there to say other than, its an event to get behind the wheel, fast or slow, 12 hours behind the wheel is no stress in the most comfortable function rich seats.
I am always driving the long way round.
Received many nice comments and the local car wash guys love to wash her when I don't, She has many characters, but she is not abused, but must work, moving the family on UK or euro road trips, cruising, with heavy luggage, roof box @ 80+ or going to the local dump on the odd weekend with waste. She as a Mercedes estate is at her best when fully loaded, as was my S203's, S211 CDi. The air suspension is fantastic. The stock performance is frightening, so no need to modify for more power at present and the stock exhaust note is nice and variable, quite or raucous when in the mood.

Thanks for your time as its taken me too long to write this up, but now retired I look forward to enjoying our shared interest no matter what the model is.


Car history
Vauhall Viva
Vauxhall Cavalier (Mrk 1) (I converted to electronic ignition)
Opel Monza GSE 3.0 ( Digital dash, great engine, great cruiser, great styling) I should have kept her
Vauxhall Cavalier (Mrk2) company
Rover 600 company
BMW 3 series company
S203 1.8 company
S203 K1.8 company
Lovely car. I'm aiming to have AMG soon!
 

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