M25 junctions banned - including Heathrow T4 exit

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I did just that, it was a good reminder of how slippy your argument is, from now on you shall be known as Slip Slop.
My argument regarding Insulate Britain and Extinction Rebellion and their misguided supporters is very clear. They are bell ends, imho.

I take it the artist formerly known as Lewyboy/ DrFeelgood disagrees. How informative.
 
I did just that, it was a good reminder of how slippy your argument is, from now on you shall be known as Slip Slop.

My argument regarding Insulate Britain and Extinction Rebellion and their misguided supporters is very clear. They are bell ends, imho.

I take it the artist formerly known as Lewyboy/ DrFeelgood disagrees. How informative.
Slip Slop, you are now the artist formerly known as Chip Chop.
 
Insulate Britain, which is demanding Government action on home insulation, stopped traffic at two sections of Britain's busiest motorway.

They targeted Junction 23 for South Mimms in Hertfordshire and the main carriageway from Junction 8 at Reigate to Junction 9 at Leatherhead, both in Surrey.

Demonstrators sat on the road, causing huge queues of traffic, and at least 32 arrests have been made.

A crash involving four vehicles led to a woman in her 50s being airlifted to hospital with serious injuries.

Surrey Police have said the investigation into the collision is ongoing, adding: "It is too early in the investigation to know if these two incidents were linked."

'One car was squashed into half its size'​


But witness Steve Glenn, who was commuting to work clockwise on the M25, told The Telegraph: "The cars ploughed into the back of each other. It was so blatantly obvious what had happened. The standstill traffic was caused by the protest.

"One car was squashed into half its size."

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Insulate Britain, which is demanding Government action on home insulation, stopped traffic at two sections of Britain's busiest motorway.

They targeted Junction 23 for South Mimms in Hertfordshire and the main carriageway from Junction 8 at Reigate to Junction 9 at Leatherhead, both in Surrey.

Demonstrators sat on the road, causing huge queues of traffic, and at least 32 arrests have been made.

A crash involving four vehicles led to a woman in her 50s being airlifted to hospital with serious injuries.

Surrey Police have said the investigation into the collision is ongoing, adding: "It is too early in the investigation to know if these two incidents were linked."

'One car was squashed into half its size'​


But witness Steve Glenn, who was commuting to work clockwise on the M25, told The Telegraph: "The cars ploughed into the back of each other. It was so blatantly obvious what had happened. The standstill traffic was caused by the protest.

"One car was squashed into half its size."

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Look Sloppy, not one comment yet, get in there son, your audience awaits you.
 
But witness Steve Glenn, who was commuting to work clockwise on the M25, told The Telegraph: "The cars ploughed into the back of each other. It was so blatantly obvious what had happened. The standstill traffic was caused by the protest.

If this is true then the organisers of the protest should go to prison. Any half wit could see a protest on a motorway was putting lives at risk. Their action falls under a broad definition of terrorism because they are deliberately setting out to intimidate the public. The police need no further powers to remove the protestors instantly. Remember the protestors claimed that this was only the beginning and many more protests were planned. This cannot be allowed to happen and if it does both Cressida **** and Priti Patel should go and make way for someone prepared to allow the police to do their job of protecting the public. For once the Daily Mail is not too far off a sensible view on this story.
 
If this is true then the organisers of the protest should go to prison. Any half wit could see a protest on a motorway was putting lives at risk. Their action falls under a broad definition of terrorism because they are deliberately setting out to intimidate the public. The police need no further powers to remove the protestors instantly. Remember the protestors claimed that this was only the beginning and many more protests were planned. This cannot be allowed to happen and if it does both Cressida **** and Priti Patel should go and make way for someone prepared to allow the police to do their job of protecting the public. For once the Daily Mail is not too far off a sensible view on this story.
I could not agree more and yes sadly i suspect these terrorists will continue to be allowed to "act now" in the run up to the UN COP26 Glasgow climate change conference.
 
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A spokesman for the Association of British Drivers said: 'The police have failed to do their duty. It's time for Chief Constables to decide whose side they're on. The actions of these people is an absolute bl**dy disgrace.

'They should be locked away. I'm appalled about why they have been released on bail with no restrictions. Not only have police not arrested these people for proper offences - they've not charged them with anything at all'.''


Good to see the Association of British Drivers setting their stall so early. I take it then that if/when the government hike the price of petrol and diesel to force us into electric cars the traditional method of protesting high fuel prices - namely, slow moving (if moving at all) traffic blockades - will be called out by the Association of British Drivers with similar robustness.
 
Maybe I'm a mug, or maybe I'm missing the point. However.
We live in a house that was built a fair number of years ago, before modern standards of insulation were a thing.
I stuck my hand in my pocket and paid to have the cavity wall and loft insulation sorted.
I'd rather have spent the money on a few of weeks relaxing on a beach in the Seychelles, but at no time did I think " hang on, this is all the government's fault."
I'm all for free speech and the right to peaceful protest, but come on......
 
Maybe I'm a mug, or maybe I'm missing the point. However.
We live in a house that was built a fair number of years ago, before modern standards of insulation were a thing.
I stuck my hand in my pocket and paid to have the cavity wall and loft insulation sorted.
I'd rather have spent the money on a few of weeks relaxing on a beach in the Seychelles, but at no time did I think " hang on, this is all the government's fault."
I'm all for free speech and the right to peaceful protest, but come on......

We replaced the large Victorian sash windows with made-to-measure double-glazed ones. The frames had to be made exactly the same because we live in a conservation area. So we needed a specialist firm. That was ten years ago but whenever I am reminded of it I still feel the pain in my wallet...

And no, I didn't expect anyone else to pay for it, either.
 

The Daily Mail is good with headlines, but not so much with the articles themselves... it's not clear why the son didn't call an ambulance for his mother for 6 hours? Or did he call one but the ambulance couldn't get through? If so why wasn't a helicopter sent? Etc. I guess the DM editors figured-out that most of their readers never look beyond the headlines anyway... :D
 
You have absolutely no idea what my opinion may be, why can't insulating homes be part of an economic recovery?

I think that the current debate is mainly about the methods employed by the protesters to spread their message; the merit (or lack of) of the cause itself is a separate discussion.
 
The Daily Mail is good with headlines, but not so much with the articles themselves... it's not clear why the son didn't call an ambulance for his mother for 6 hours? Or did he call one but the ambulance couldn't get through? If so why wasn't a helicopter sent? Etc. I guess the DM editors figured-out that most of their readers never look beyond the headlines anyway... :D
I would suggest the majority of people would not spot the signs of a stroke or a tia quickly, least of all while sitting in a car.
 
I would suggest the majority of people would not spot the signs of a stroke or a tia quickly, least of all while sitting in a car.

'The man, Chris, told LBC's Andrew Pierce: 'I was caught for about six hours in traffic. I was doing a mission of mercy to help my mother.

'I was there with my mother for six hours watching her slip away, and I could do nothing.

'When we got her to the hospital, the doctors said if we were to have gotten to them within 90 minutes, her symptoms, her recovery would have been minimal.

'Because she'd been left to endure a stroke for six hours she's got complete paralysis now down her left side. I am so angry and so upset – this didn't need to happen.'

The caller's unsubstantiated claim comes after it emerged today that the protesters could now face conspiracy charges with a maximum sentence of five years.'

Clearly this was an elderly person not feeling well, and getting worse... over six hours. Time to call for help, you'd have thought?

I am not critical of the son's actions, but of the Daily Mail who didn't bother to properly follow-up this story before publishing it in its current perplexing form.
 
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I think that the current debate is mainly about the methods employed by the protesters to spread their message; the merit (or lack of) of the cause itself is a separate discussion.

Spot on, MJ.

Everyone has the right to free speech, but there are ways of expressing that falling far short of causing not just disruption to tens of thousands, but injury to some.

Someone said there's no such thing as bad publicity. Well, these bozos have perhaps proved the exception to the rule.

Arrest and a few hours or more in an insulated (sorry, padded) cell should be the minimum reaction to their crass behaviour causing significant risk to public safety.
 
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Arrest and a few hours or more in an insulated (sorry, padded) cell should be the minimum reaction to their crass behaviour causing significant risk to public safety.

I think we can all agree that the protestors deserved at least that but for me a bigger issue has been highlighted and that is the impotence of our police force in situations like this. I'm not sure who I'm more annoyed with, the protestors or those who took so many hours to decide that some action was required. I hasten to add that's not aimed at individual policemen but those who managed them in this situation.
 

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