man gets arrested for taking picture of own daughter

[Howard]

I was on a course with my company ( Govt agency ) at Reading Pool.

I was on standby and a call came in , i excused myself from the course and went outside onto the tiers that overlook the pool.

Almost immediately i was asked to leave by a 'security guard' , not just to stop using the phone , but asked to leave and escorted from the building , no amount of explaining would change his mind.

I had to phone someone on the course ( still in the meeting room ) to get let back in.

All do do with paedos taking photos of kids apparently .

 

[Dryce]

Yes it's totally about terrorism and anti terrorism measures. You are not even allowed your phone on in the Immigration queue.

Banning the phones there and not at security is ..... so much more secure.

I'll stand by the privacy and data protection on the immigration side. They have some specific issues though the 'reason' may have morphed to something else in the current climate.

 

[Dieselman]

The question has to be, why would someone taking pictures of their own daughter be committing an act of terrorism?

It doesn't matter what He was taking pictures of, the law says no pictures are allowed.

 

[flango]

It doesn't matter what He was taking pictures of, the law says no pictures are allowed.

"The question has to be, why would someone taking pictures of their own daughter be committing an act of terrorism?

It has been the case on previous occasions where terrorists stand children in front of what they really want to photograph and that's how they gain intelligence on the particular subject they want.

 

[LTD]

BBC News - Braehead centre issues apology over photo row

Amazing that a review of centre policy takes place after the threat of a mass boycott and protest in the run up to Christmas ...

 

[LTD]

It has been the case on previous occasions where terrorists stand children in front of what they really want to photograph and that's how they gain intelligence on the particular subject they want.

Can't they just use Google Streetview now ?

 

[flango]

Can't they just use Google Streetview now ?

Doesn't tell you much about the inside of a shopping center or Airport though

 

[Dieselman]

At the end of the day, who wants pictures of their Kids...

 

[LTD]

Last time they tried to blow anything up in Glasgow, the burning lad just got beat up by passers-by and staff.

 

[Dieselman]

Is there anything worth burning in Glasgow?

 

[LTD]

Is there anything worth burning in Glasgow?

... and you stay where ?

 

[nick mercedes]

It doesn't matter what He was taking pictures of, the law says no pictures are allowed.

What law would that be?

 

[nick mercedes]

Is there anything worth burning in Glasgow?

It's all been deep fried already.

 

[Dieselman]

What law would that be?

Mr White said that one officer claimed that under the Prevention of Terrorism Act he was within in his rights to confiscate the mobile phone on which the photos were taken.

 

[nick mercedes]

Mr White said that one officer claimed that under the Prevention of Terrorism Act he was within in his rights to confiscate the mobile phone on which the photos were taken.

Policemen make up all sort of laws when it suits them...

 

[MOCAŠ]

Notwithstanding the outcome, whereby the shopping centre has revised its policy, I can't help thinking that there may have been more to this than the report reveals. I can't imagine security guards calling the police on a whim, so I wonder whether Mr White became abusive when challenged? He certainly looks a bit rough around the edges...

Also, is this shopping centre really a public place? Surely those who enter do so with the consent of its owners/operators, and are obliged to leave if asked to do so, particularly if they have breached the rules imposed by the operators.

As for calling his daughter Hazel, that's tantamount to child abuse.

 

[LTD]

Why didn't it just go like this ...

Guard "Sorry Sir, you cannot take photos in here as it's against centre policy"

Father "OK, I was taking a few photos of my wee girl. Didn't realise that was a problem"

Guard "OK, don't take any more or I'll have to ask you to leave the centre"

 

[nick mercedes]

so I wonder whether Mr White became abusive when challenged? He certainly looks a bit rough around the edges...

It was in Glasgow, so both the above are a given.

Still no need for some pretend robocop security guards and some badly trained policemen to try and harass him for doing nothing though.

 

[MOCAŠ]

Mr White said that one officer claimed that under the Prevention of Terrorism Act he was within in his rights to confiscate the mobile phone on which the photos were taken.

I thought that a control order was required in order to exercise that power, or in case of the need for urgent action, that an arrest has to be made to detain someone while an order is being applied for.

 

[Dryce]

I can't imagine security guards calling the police on a whim, so I wonder whether Mr White became abusive when challenged? He certainly looks a bit rough around the edges...

Actually they will.

The problem is escalation. You get approached by a uniformed staff member in a mall after you've taken an innocent photo (eg your child or wife or GF or BF).

So where does it go? So you're happy to admit you were taking photos.

Now what?

They ask to see ? Do you show?

They ask you to delete ? do you delete?

You refuse one or both of the above and it becomes a demand? Do you comply?

They won't back down.

Neither will you comply.

Then what?

Their only escalation is to make it a police issue.

Or back down and look really really ineffectual and stupid.