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Mercedes and AMG at Geneva

Palmball

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After my visit to the Geneva show on Friday, I've come to the conclusion that the latest range of MB's are one of the best range of cars available on the market today (as if you all needed telling that ;)). BMW's range was also very good in the all-rounder stakes but their new 1M was a disappointment (too similar to a 135i for my liking) and the new 6-series not as nice as I thought it would be.

The new cars on show at this years show that interested me were the new SLK, new C-Class Coupe, new C63 and CLS63 AMG's, facelift C-Class and....well, that's what I focussed on anyway!

Firstly, a quick shot from across a couple of halls where you can see Mercedes' very large stand from a long way away (I believe it was the largest single stand).

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Heres a close up of the stand where you can see a dedicated AMG section at the rear left which was covered and clearly separate from the normal range (something that BMW M could learn a thing or two about - their M3 was just in amongst everything else!). You can't see a lot of cars on this shot as, to be honest, most were behind me (which gives you an idea of scale) and those in front were just surround by people (there's far too many people at these European shows, even on weekdays).

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New SLK

This is a LOT nicer in real life than pictures - it's a nice, sharp looking little roadster. The interior is very SLS-like and the whole design of the thing means it's easily the prettiest when compared with a Z4 or Boxster. The red they chose for the show car was also very sharp - much nicer than Fire Opal (that's what the red was on the old one IIRC?).

The new vario-roof thing where it can either be transparent or opaque is very cool and a sure selling point of this car over it's competitors.

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New C-Class Coupe

To be honest, I was a little disappointed with this one. No frameless doors and still a bit upright for a coupe - it was just a bit bland to be honest (although I might have had a different opinion had it not been in silver which is not my favourite colour!).

I just think the 4-door shape suits the C-Class details better but I'm sure it'll look great with some AMG add-ons or in C63 guise and the interior is as per the new C-Class...very nice (see my bit on the C63 below).

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New CLS63 AMG

OMG. OMG. OMG...this really was stunning in every way. This is my absolute favourite 'real-world' car right now :D

It looks sensational, again much nicer in real life than pictures (mainly because you don't see the awkward rear flanks all the time!). It looks sleek, and hard as nails at the same time.

Then you move to the interior which is stunning with it's leather clad swooping design and the most comfy, support seats in the world (the same as the E63's dynamic seats but set even lower so you feel really cocooned). The driving position is perfect and even the back seas are a special place to sit with the individual seats and luxurious trimming around you.

This car is so impressive that I'm going to find out just how unaffordable it is in the hope that, like with my Porsche, a residual miracle will make it attainable...unlikely as it's some £20k too expensive! :crazy: For me, this beat even the C63 as a car to have by some margin.

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To be continued....
 
Continued....


New C63 AMG

Finally, the most anticipated car for me and one of the main reasons for my visit. :) To the regular eye, the new C63 may look a lot like the current one but to me, as someone who knew my C63 inside out, there are so many changes that I was wetting myself over (the other half just disappeared at this point :o).

Firstly, the little dial next to the gearlever which confirmed the MCT gearbox - this will be a major improvement for the car as the gearbox was the C63's weak link. It has all the MCT options including C, S, S+, M and Racestart (launch control) modes....if it's as good in this as in the E63 then I can't wait to try it :D

Secondly, the car seemed to have a much better stance than the current C63 - I know they've have made some suspension changes but the ride height and angle of the wheels looked very similar my C63 which had the KW coilovers fitted (and as such was was about 5-10mm lower than standard). It's not a lot but as you can see on the picture showing just the front wheel, there's very little gap between wheel and arch resulting in a very aesthetically pleasing stance!

The power domes are much shaper in design - in fact, they have a very defined edge to the top of them and look great! One more point on the outside is the blacked centre section of the front bumper...a small point by I reckon the design feature looks great.

Moving to the inside....well, what a transformation. Even with the factory Designo option which covered the top of the dash in leather, the current C63 still has the lower half plastics on show - these are course enough to almost ruin the good work of the leather on the top half. In my opinion, in the current C63 you either have the dash all in plastic (as most people do) or all in leather like I did (but this is a lot of cost and inconvenience to get that done after the car is built).

The interior of the show car had the factory Designo dash top but this blended really well with the plastic lower half as there was much less obvious difference between the two (with the top half maintaining the excellent quality Nappa leather). The dash shape is much nice and the nav screen is integrated which will give a much more cohesive look when driving. The seats are the same but the two-tone white and black of the show car was right up my street and should be an option that's openly available (i.e. hopefully not Designo).

The instruments were slightly different with the centre display now in full colour (although I couldn't see what exciting things were behind the fancy new display) and things like the turn signals are now integrated lower down in the binnacle - great, as in the current one my steering wheel position always obscured these!

Which leads me onto the steering wheel which is totally different (and shared with the CLS). It's still flat bottomed (but less obviously so) and it has a thicker rim, especially at the top. The top part is also slightly squared off meaning it can go slightly wider to enable all the instruments to be seen behind it yet still remain a nice small overall shape. It just felt great in the hand and the driving position was also spot on.

Oh, by the way...I have a new favourite colour. It's a big departure for me this....Metallic White!! :wallbash:

I've never seen Designo Diamond White in real life before but both C63 and CLS63 were in this lovely colour. With the white and black two tone interior, it just looked stunning!

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Finally, heres a few other pics of some interesting MB's from around the vast stand....


This colour is as horrible in real life as you see in the picture:

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Just so cool, don't you think?....

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And finally, as delicious as ever and with a definite 'Palmball-spec' interior...

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C class coupe, no frameless doors. One mans dissappointment is another mans joy. I hate the things with a passion, and they are the one reason why I did not buy a CLS or look to get one, or a CLK. This is a coupe I would actually therefore buy one day.

Not surprising though, its the same basic car underneath as the E class coupe, and there needs to be more "premium" touches in the E class coupe to differentiate it from the C class coupe, which is the same car.

Any, although the C63 interior is a nicer one, its not a patch on the CLS one. Its missing a major feature on the front of the dash, wood trim and the extra sculpting.

Personally, if you can afford a CLS63 that is the car I'd buy if I were you, even if it means you have to keep it a bit longer. Its just so special and you seem so positive about it.
 
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C class coupe, no frameless doors. One mans dissappointment is another mans joy. I hate the things with a passion, and they are the one reason why I did not buy a CLS or look to get one, or a CLK. This is a coupe I would actually therefore buy one day.

You and I Steve are so different I think we'd get on like a house on fire! You know how they say opposites attract lol (NO...NOT LIKE THAT YOU DIRTY B@STARDS!)


Any, although the C63 interior is a nicer one, its not a patch on the CLS one. Its missing a major feature on the front of the dash, wood trim and the extra sculpting.

Personally, if you can afford a CLS63 that is the car I'd buy if I were you, even if it means you have to keep it a bit longer. Its just so special and you seem so positive about it.

Yes, the CLS is incredible but it should be - they're knocking on the door of £100k with a few key options selected :eek:

I'm afraid I cannot afford that as it is just too rich for me so unless there are some crazy PCP deals (possibly if the residuals are good enough) or major discounting (just not going to happen is it) then I'll have to slum it in a C!
 
Thank you Palmball.

On the facelifted C63, I don't like the front lights - nor the steering wheel after all.

Maybe they'll grow on me.......

So I'll wait.
 
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Andy Thanks for the pics mate, I think they have resolved all the issues that stopped me from buying a c63, The estate is perfect for me, and i LIKE the new dash a LOT, cant wait to try the gearbox in that car.

Bell me about that phone when you get to work dude.
 
You must come back to mercedes as we miss your writes
 
Hi

Thanks for the great write up and pics, with all those white cars on display, Mercedes must have heard that you were coming!
 
Two cars there which would cover all my angles- the CLS & G....:rock:

That CLS is quite simply the best looking car on the road today and the G-Class, well it needs no introduction does it?:devil:
 
Isn't another change on the facelifted C63 (and by the looks of it the CLS63) the single bar grill? My C63 has 2 bars.
 
Thank you Palmball.

On the facelifted C63, I don't like the front lights - nor the steering wheel after all.

Maybe they'll grow on me.......

So I'll wait.

agree lights and s/wheel are a bit different ...um
 
:thumb:Palmball

thanks for the write up and the excellent pictures:thumb:

i shall continue to subscribe !
 
Palmball's blogs hit the spot again ..many thanks..:thumb::thumb:
 
You and I Steve are so different I think we'd get on like a house on fire! You know how they say opposites attract lol (NO...NOT LIKE THAT YOU DIRTY B@STARDS!)

Aye you have to watch this forum lol dhard may see this thread. I take it you wont be ordering your C63 in silver and nice black leather....




Yes, the CLS is incredible but it should be - they're knocking on the door of £100k with a few key options selected :eek:

I'm afraid I cannot afford that as it is just too rich for me so unless there are some crazy PCP deals (possibly if the residuals are good enough) or major discounting (just not going to happen is it) then I'll have to slum it in a C!

Fair do, it is gorgeous. Would a CLS500 be an option for you, over 400bhp, not slow and a damn nice motor to boot.
 
Cheers all...glad you enjoyed it.

Aye you have to watch this forum lol dhard may see this thread. I take it you wont be ordering your C63 in silver and nice black leather....

Errrm....no. Not for me.

I think it stems from my childhood where my parents had a silver Citroen BX and I wanted them to have a red one. Note: no problem with the car...just the colour :p

Ever since, I've just never wanted a silver car but accept that plenty do look good, especially C63's!

Fair do, it is gorgeous. Would a CLS500 be an option for you, over 400bhp, not slow and a damn nice motor to boot.

No, not for me. So much extra goes into an AMG and its not just the engine - the whole car from suspension, gearbox, ESP, seats etc etc....is all very different. Therefore I'd rather a cheaper C63 rather than a non-AMG CLS.

Or maybe I'm just delusional and the AMG thing is all just a con.....



Come on dhard....just take a wee little bite!
 
I'm just delusional and the amg thing is all just a con .. Never a true word spoken / typed . Let me see a new shaped cls 500 or a facelifted c class .. Urh it is a hard choice ...............................yer cls but only by a country mile !!!
 
A guy who drives a porsche what did j clarkson call them ...................................................... O yer a c0ck !!!
 

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