Mercedes SAP BT Cradle

[stunt-flyer]

I have tried searches and can't find an answer to this, maybe somebody on here can help.

Can the Mercedes SAP V2 BT cradle be configured to use phone numbers stored in the phone rather than those stored on the SIM? I have an Audio 20 head unit, if that makes any difference?

As anybody got this cradle to work with more than one phone? According to the instructions upto 4 deviced can be paired.

Thanks in advance.

 

[The Dent Guy]

Yep - 4 phones can be paired.

And no, it won't find contacts in your phones memory - copy all contacts to your SIM card, thats the only way it will work.

 

[stunt-flyer]

Yep - 4 phones can be paired.

And no, it won't find contacts in your phones memory - copy all contacts to your SIM card, thats the only way it will work.

Hi The Dent Guy (hope I don't need you) thanks for your post.

I picked my CLK up yesterday and spent most of this morning trying to get my phone to play nicely with SAP BT using the destruction that came with the device, I had no joy whatsoever. I ended up ringing the MB stealer where I had the car from and theservice department had finished for the day but to give them some credit a sales guy was willing to help so off I went down to MB. The sales guy was very helpful and managed to set my phone up with the car & Audio 20 by a totally different method to that described in the destructions. I also took my Wifes phone along with me and asked him to set that up also, sadly he failed (he had never added a second phone before) please call back on Monday when our expert will be available.

I can't make it to MB for at least two weeks and would welcome any advice setting up a second phone with my SAP BT.

 

[crockers]

Is your wife's phone rSAP too?

 

[pos.k]

I can't make it to MB for at least two weeks and would welcome any advice setting up a second phone with my SAP BT.

Switch the bluetooth off on no 1 phone and then proceed as if with a new phone.

when you get back in the car it will then pair with your wife's phone if available. it always looks for the last connected phone.

 

[whitenemesis]

Setting up SAP when Audio20 is a real pain as the display can only show the first 14 digits of the passcode that you have to enter in the phone. Plus you only have 20sec before it times out.
I have had 3 phones paired to my SAP (now replaced) all Nokia and the contacts numbers were read from the phone memory.
You can only have one phone connected at a time.

 

[crockers]

Setting up SAP when Audio20 is a real pain as the display can only show the first 14 digits of the passcode that you have to enter in the phone. Plus you only have 20sec before it times out.
I have had 3 phones paired to my SAP (now replaced) all Nokia and the contacts numbers were read from the phone memory.
You can only have one phone connected at a time.

Have you now gone to HFP ? If so how do you find it compared to rSAP?

 

[richard]

Ycopy all contacts to your SIM card, thats the only way it will work.

Don't do that. When it's paired , dial 0000 <dial> on the COMAND/Audio system

And wait .. it will drop the connection, re-establish in a different bluetooth mode, download the address book, drop connection and re-establish in SAP mode

Cheers

Richard

 

[The Dent Guy]

Don't do that. When it's paired , dial 0000 <dial> on the COMAND/Audio system

And wait .. it will drop the connection, re-establish in a different bluetooth mode, download the address book, drop connection and re-establish in SAP mode

Cheers

Richard

What does this do?

 

[amwebby]

The BT SAP module does read from the phone's memory. No need to copy contacts to the SIM card. In fact it is best there are no contacts on the SIM card.

 

[richard]

What does this do?

Ok,

Bluetooth SAP profile only supports access to the SIM (as its Sim Access Profile) and thus when in SAP mode (i.e normal operating mode) the SAP module can't read the contacts.

When you dial 0000 on the head unit, tells the SAP module that you want to download the phonebook from the phone into the SAP module.
So, what it does is to: -
Drop the SAP connection
Establish a different type of connection where it can get the phonebook (i've presumed its like HFP, but its one of the various Bluetooth profiles.
Copy the phone bookd
Drop the connection
Re-establish the SAP connection

[edit]The phonebook is then in the SAP cradle, and then the car wil re-load it as/each-time the SAP connection is established, which takes a short while[/edit]

Cheers

Richard

 

[whitenemesis]

What does this do?

It downloads all your numbers into the car

 

[whitenemesis]

Have you now gone to HFP ? If so how do you find it compared to rSAP?

No, I'm now using iPhone and the MB iPhone cradle. Works very well indeed! The cradle uses Bluetooth so I can keep the phone in my pocket or clip it into the cradle to charge and use the car's aerial.

 

[The Dent Guy]

So i wasn't completely incorrect then - normal operation of SAP is to read the contacts off the SIM.

So will dialling 0000 on a Audio 20 do the same thing? I thought this only worked with comand.

And, will the system show duplication of contacts..... ie. the ones transfered to the SAP via 0000 and also the ones from the SIM when connected?

Or is the idea to delete all contacts from the SIM and just occassionally update the SAP via dialling 0000?

 

[stunt-flyer]

Is your wife's phone rSAP too?

We both have contract Sony Erisson phones which don't support SAP so I bought two el cheapo Nokia 2630 to tide us over to the end of September when we are both due upgrades.We will both upgrade to Nokia 6730.

 

[stunt-flyer]

So i wasn't completely incorrect then - normal operation of SAP is to read the contacts off the SIM.

So will dialling 0000 on a Audio 20 do the same thing? I thought this only worked with comand.

And, will the system show duplication of contacts..... ie. the ones transfered to the SAP via 0000 and also the ones from the SIM when connected?

Or is the idea to delete all contacts from the SIM and just occassionally update the SAP via dialling 0000?

I was just about to ask the same question but would add - how would I delete the SIM phone numbers fron the Audio 20?

 

[amwebby]

So i wasn't completely incorrect then - normal operation of SAP is to read the contacts off the SIM.

So will dialling 0000 on a Audio 20 do the same thing? I thought this only worked with comand.

And, will the system show duplication of contacts..... ie. the ones transfered to the SAP via 0000 and also the ones from the SIM when connected?

Or is the idea to delete all contacts from the SIM and just occassionally update the SAP via dialling 0000?

Dialling 0000 works with all systems. I've never had contacts stored on my SIM so didn't even know it erad these as part of the pairing process. I'd imagine if you had contacts stored in you SIM and phone you would get duplicates though.

One final thing. You should store UK numbers as local numbers, i.e 020 1234 instead of international format +44 20 1234, otherwise the caller's name will not display for incoming calls. Annoyingly numbers from abroad should be stored in international format in order for the caller's name to be displayed. Even more annoyingly, when you go abroad it is the UK numbers and those outside the visiting country that need to be in international format and the numbers in the country you're visiting that need to be in local format. I have versions of my phone book stored for each country I'm visiting to obviate the problem.

 

[stunt-flyer]

Dialling 0000 works with all systems. I've never had contacts stored on my SIM so didn't even know it erad these as part of the pairing process. I'd imagine if you had contacts stored in you SIM and phone you would get duplicates though.

One final thing. You should store UK numbers as local numbers, i.e 020 1234 instead of international format +44 20 1234, otherwise the caller's name will not display for incoming calls. Annoyingly numbers from abroad should be stored in international format in order for the caller's name to be displayed. Even more annoyingly, when you go abroad it is the UK numbers and those outside the visiting country that need to be in international format and the numbers in the country you're visiting that need to be in local format. I have versions of my phone book stored for each country I'm visiting to obviate the problem.

Ok here's what I did - Deleted all SIM contacts and changed any +44 numbers to local numbers. Connected BT with the car, car audio memory showed no contacts. Called 0000, phone logged off and a then reconnected after a short while, audio now has all my phone contacts which automatically update every time I get in the car. Perfect, just what I wanted. Thanks to all those for advice given, great forum. Just need to add my wife's phone now, I'll save that for another day or get the MB stealer to do it as I said I couldn't get my phone to pair using the method described in the destructions.

 

[stunt-flyer]

Have you now gone to HFP ? If so how do you find it compared to rSAP?

As far as I know the SAP BT cradle is the only BT device/cradle that uses the cars "external" antenna. I have made and received a few calls now and the quality of the connection is second to none, superb. It's an expensive unit (around £300) but I managed to pick up the latest version 2 device from fleebay for £130, absolute bargain.

 

[MeMerc]

Instructions on Pairing

Sorry to hijack your thread. I also have the SAP V2 module and Audio20, but no instructions on how to pair devices.

I am trying to pair a Nokia 6110 but not having much success. The Remote Sim Mode is ON and phones visibility is Shown to All. When searching for a new paired device the phone sees UHI-SN5624, I'm not sure what the passcode is for this.

The Audio20 has found the phone at one point, but didn't pair. Not sure if I should read the 16 digit code from left to right or right to left.

Could someone please help . I do not know which buttons I should press and when.


I am considering buying a Nokia 5800. Does anyone have this phone paired with SAP V2, does the phonebook download?

Thanks