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Hi

I am contemplating changing my car, I had decided that my next car would be a Cayenne, but unfortuntaley 5 seats isn't enough.

Well, at the moment its not so much that 5 seats isn't enough its that when the baby seat is in place the back seat is only comfortable for one adult and we often travel as 4 adults and one toddler.

I have been looking at what is available and within budget its looking like the Mercedes R-Class or the Audi Q7. I really fancy a 4x4, for the high driving position and the fact that its still kind of youngish.... I am under 35.

With a stretch of the budget, the GL could be a possibility.

There is also the Land-Rover Discovery, but Land-Rovers scare me in terms of reliability.

What are people experiences and opinions of the R, GL and Q7?

Many thanks

Tan
 

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Wouldn't rule out the landie - have a look at the latest Discovery 4. It's a very fine vehicle, and I think much of the reliability stuff has been sorted. Of the others, the R isn't in quite the same category for me; yes, it's 4 wheel drive, but it doesn't have the high driving position. Q7 is huge, as is the GL...take a test drive, and go into the Buckhurst Hill Waitrose car park before deciding!
 
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If you're stretching your budget to a GL, I'll assume that you've got a budget of around £20k.

I wouldn't rule out the Discovery3 TDV6, they can get a bad press (a bit like Mercedes) but they are good cars. My neighbours son has had his from new and he's done 80k in the car and it's only had a starter motor fitted besides routine servicing.
In fact, I'll be probably be buying one for the wife, as it happens.

I wouldn't put the R-Class in the same category as the others, it's more of a people carrier than a '4x4'.

The GL is one big motor, I saw one parked next to a Range Rover yesterday and it seemed to dwarf it. If you were to go for one, you'd have to get the 420 CDI; V8 + 305bhp, what's not to like?

The Q7 is another car that I looked at earlier on in the year, it takes some searching to find one with decent specification. 'Johnnyboy' on here has just sold his only last month.
 

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Mrs RedC220's cousin owns and runs a Porsche independent specialists in Wiltshire.

I mentioned to him I'd like a Cayenne as I like 4x4 - his option, don't touch one with a barge pole once it's out of manufacturers warranty. Awful cars, and he loves Porsche!
 

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Steve G has an R class CDi .. loves it. Comfortable, reliable and cheap to buy.
 

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We have an R class but beware, its a 6 seater with a tiny boot.

I bought it for the exact same reason you have said.. but just to get the pushchair in the boot i have to remove its wheels etc, and even then its tight... So often end up folding down one of the seats, so then its just a 5 seater..

But its the most comfortable car in that range IMO. Ive sat in the third row of seats and it feels nice, not like its meant for kids.

However I feel im going to have to find a viano or something soon.

Im sure the later R class are 7 seaters? They could so easily have made the middle row a 3 seater, then it would be soooo much better.
 

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We have an R class but beware, its a 6 seater with a tiny boot.

I bought it for the exact same reason you have said.. but just to get the pushchair in the boot i have to remove its wheels etc, and even then its tight... So often end up folding down one of the seats, so then its just a 5 seater..

But its the most comfortable car in that range IMO. Ive sat in the third row of seats and it feels nice, not like its meant for kids.

However I feel im going to have to find a viano or something soon.

Im sure the later R class are 7 seaters? They could so easily have made the middle row a 3 seater, then it would be soooo much better.

Yes the later R Class is a 7 seater, but when you look at it the middle seat looks like an after thought. I believe the longer wheel base variants would also provide more luggage room.

We've also pondered getting an R Class, having 6+ seats would be useful when we go out with the family (i.e. parents). Our kids are 4 and 1, so the puschair we have is relatively compact anyway. I could see how the larger baby buggies would pose a problem. As others have said they're pretty good value. I like the sound of an R500 and I've seen some cheap ones (although as the earlier model they're all 6 seaters). I've not driven an R Class yet, I think it's probably better suited to the Diesel.

7 seaters are always a compromise (unless you look at something like a Viano) as the 6th & 7th people generally go where the luggage would be!
 

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LWB R Class would do :)

The disco or volvo xc90 are good sized 7 seaters. The disco feels a bit plastiky inside.

I would think for the price the R class R320cdi LWB would suit, I also like the look of them.

The G class would be at the top of my list if I can afford one / run it. Don't think I would be happy now with 25mpg....but a great bus for the money.

I guess any of these cars would be around 25 to 30mpg? given the size / 4wd
 

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Love my R350. It's a LWB but the extra 1ft or so is spread between the middle and rear so there's still little extra room behind the 3rd row. Got a roof box when needed. Petrol comsumption is poor though, getting maybe 25mpg on motorways but could get less if I went slower! Got 29mpg during a 50-60 stint.

If you go for an R-class, make sure it has a reversing camera and parking sensors as it's a big car.
 
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Steve G has an R class CDi .. loves it. Comfortable, reliable and cheap to buy.

Ah... I saw a Cayenne for sale recently for sale that sounded like it might have been his old one.
 

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My in-laws have a 2006 R350 LWB (6-seater) which we've been in many times. Had no problems fitting a pushchair in the boot :dk: guess it depends on the make/model!

Theirs has been very reliable, no issues I know of.
 

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Never discount the Land Rover.
The wife, who is a childminder, had a 12 seater 110 (on an 'F' plate) for many years with no problems with regular servicing; now drives a 12 seater Renault Bus.

I've had two LR's; Discovery and a Freelander; only problem was trying to satisfy the exhaust emission criteria at MOT time.

The daughter had a Freelander; no problems only her driving!!
 

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