need some help with alloy wheels please

Discussion in 'Wheels, Tyres, Brakes & Suspension' started by radster, Jul 20, 2017.

  1. radster

    radster New Member

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    Hello
    my brother bought a mercedes vito 6 seater long wheel base 2010

    it came with metallic wheels and a set of alloy wheels but worn tires today i fitted in the tyre shop the alloy wheels and new tyres for them.. tyre fitter told me that the nuts may be a bit shorter and may need changing, not as wheels will come of but may need changing he said
    trip to halyards wasn't successful they had no idea


    old tyre and steel wheel 20565r 16c mercedes make
    new tyre and alloy wheels 235 55 r 17
    would appreciate any help as he s going abroad saturday and need to clarify this

    called mercedess though was they half hour and no answer
     
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    CabrioDave Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Steel wheels and alloy wheels do take different nuts/studs (on most kinds of car). If you can't contact your local Mercedes dealer, try a local alloy wheels shop?
     
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    Abb Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    radster, before anyone can help, I think you need to provide more details to the width of the old and new wheels as well as the offset (ET), all this info should be stamped on the rear of the wheel, the width will be a number followed by the letter j (ie 7.5j) and the offset will be a double digit (ie ET 35).

    The bolts also need to be the correct seating shape for the wheel, so the head of the bolt fits and sits correctly against the wheel surface.

    You could also check this yourself by removing one of the wheels, push the bolt through the hole and see how much protrudes the other side (as in how much of the thread will be going into the hub) and then try the same with the old (OEM) wheel and see what (if any) the difference is, and that should answer your question.
     
  4. If time is short, put the original steel wheels back on.
     
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    radster New Member

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    Thank you for swift replies

    on old ones i found all the info
    et60 and 6 1/2 Jx 16h2

    on alloys , there is not a single sign of any thing written , unless its in the back and unless i remove the whole wheel(which to my memory i only removed a motorcycle wheel once in my life ..luckly no punctures ;)
     
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    Sniperstu New Member

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    Same issue for me, different size rim but need a stubby bolt i guess.
     
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    radster New Member

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    right removed wheel
    mercedes alloy made A163 401 0902
    8 1/2 x17
    h2
    et52

    hlb6.1465

    euro car parts /halford , another shop wouldn't have a clue

    called mercedes and no much luck on phone so did 12 miles to mercedes dartford
    computer says no ... even with the alloy wheel number he kept insisting i need the van reg not this info
    gave the reg and he came up with same studs as i have

    bit of chit chat with the manager he investigated and found this alloys are for mercedes ML

    total studs same as what i got plus 4 security locking ones and key for it , 165.00 !!

    what do i do ?
     
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    radster New Member

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    where i come from ffs, you just screwed some bolts in to the wheel and it never came of ;)
     
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    Flyinspanner Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Search eBay. Measure the length of the ones you have, and ask seller to do same to ensure you get correct size/ shoulder shape ie tapered or rounded.

    You could try one of the 'specialist' Merc breaker yards.

    DO NOT be tempted by aluminium/alloy 'designer' bolts on eBay, too many stories of them stripping threads/breaking.
     
  10. BTB 500

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    Good suggestion above.

    Yes as mentioned they are ML alloys (that's the "163" in the part number). As an aside the rolling radius of the wheel/tyre is slightly bigger than standard for a Vito, so at 70 it will be going 1 or 2 mph faster than the speedo says.

    If you are honest and declare the wheels as non-standard you could have some issues with insurance - depends on the company. Make sure the tyres have the right load rating for a van though ... I think the standard is 101. It doesn't matter what weight it will be carrying (or not), they must legally be rated for the GVW (which is just under 3 tonnes).
     
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    radster New Member

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    More worried about safety if the bolts are than anything else
     
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    If the 205/65 16 is the correct size for the vito then a 225/55/17 would be the correct replacement...the 235 is too tall.
     
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