G8YTZ
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Oh, forgot to say, I also went for the telephone pre-wire and the Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V3 module, so here's a bit about the module.
The old car only had the Nokia interface, but I found a very good solution. Orange (UK) do something called "Single Number" which costs £3/mo extra on your tariff it only operates with standard tariffs though. Orange is the only UK supplier to offer this feature and it works with data services too and is totally automatic, unlike the old Vodafone Dual-SIM which has been removed from sale. Orange Single Number is a dual-SIM system, my primary phone is a Blackberry Bold and the second SIM lives in the car, incoming calls are automatically directed to the Blackberry, unless the car is switched on and then the calls go to the car (First Call route to the secondary SIM, the primary lives in your portable phone). The outbound Calling Line Presentation (CLIP) Number is displayed on outbound calls from both phones, but text messages don't display CLIP, the display Network CLID so Text message numnber display is correct for the primary SIM only, but this is not actually an issue (see below)
Now the new car with the SAP module you pair as normal with the Blackberry and do your phonebook synchronisation and then you insert SIM 2 into the SAP module.
Here are the advantages:
1. No messing about with plugging and unplugging a phone each time you get in the car, its all automatic
2. The MB SAP V3 module includes a USB charging port to charge your phone
3. E-mails still arrive at the Blackberry, with SAP the BB cannot be used as all control of the SIM card is passed to the car.
The SAP V3 module has a very good and powerful radio section, designed and optimised for moving vehicles rather than good battery life requirements of a portable phone.
4. If you remove the SIM card, the SAP V3 module reverts to Bluetooth SAP
5. If you forget your phone, you can still make and receive calls.
Things to be aware of:
1. SAP V3 module supports call waiting, but not call hold or 3-way calling (unlike the old Nokia solution in the earlier W211 cars)
2. There is no handset feature on the current SAP V3 module.
3. You cannot send text messages from the car any more
4. It does not display MWI (Voicemail Message Waiting Indication). It shows this as a blank text.
5. The car only stores about half a dozen incoming text messages before the memory is full (why?). Incoming text messages on the Orange Single Number service are not supported to the secondary SIM using your original number.
6. Ths SAP BT module is GSM only, not 3G.
All in all the SAP V3 module is a very good solution, remember that SAP (SIM Access Profile) enables the use of the car phone as a car phone which offers the best reception and general audio performance. SAP is supported on recent Blackberry's but not as yet on the iPhone.
Wish they had a version with a handset though.
Justin.
The old car only had the Nokia interface, but I found a very good solution. Orange (UK) do something called "Single Number" which costs £3/mo extra on your tariff it only operates with standard tariffs though. Orange is the only UK supplier to offer this feature and it works with data services too and is totally automatic, unlike the old Vodafone Dual-SIM which has been removed from sale. Orange Single Number is a dual-SIM system, my primary phone is a Blackberry Bold and the second SIM lives in the car, incoming calls are automatically directed to the Blackberry, unless the car is switched on and then the calls go to the car (First Call route to the secondary SIM, the primary lives in your portable phone). The outbound Calling Line Presentation (CLIP) Number is displayed on outbound calls from both phones, but text messages don't display CLIP, the display Network CLID so Text message numnber display is correct for the primary SIM only, but this is not actually an issue (see below)
Now the new car with the SAP module you pair as normal with the Blackberry and do your phonebook synchronisation and then you insert SIM 2 into the SAP module.
Here are the advantages:
1. No messing about with plugging and unplugging a phone each time you get in the car, its all automatic
2. The MB SAP V3 module includes a USB charging port to charge your phone
3. E-mails still arrive at the Blackberry, with SAP the BB cannot be used as all control of the SIM card is passed to the car.
The SAP V3 module has a very good and powerful radio section, designed and optimised for moving vehicles rather than good battery life requirements of a portable phone.
4. If you remove the SIM card, the SAP V3 module reverts to Bluetooth SAP
5. If you forget your phone, you can still make and receive calls.
Things to be aware of:
1. SAP V3 module supports call waiting, but not call hold or 3-way calling (unlike the old Nokia solution in the earlier W211 cars)
2. There is no handset feature on the current SAP V3 module.
3. You cannot send text messages from the car any more
4. It does not display MWI (Voicemail Message Waiting Indication). It shows this as a blank text.
5. The car only stores about half a dozen incoming text messages before the memory is full (why?). Incoming text messages on the Orange Single Number service are not supported to the secondary SIM using your original number.
6. Ths SAP BT module is GSM only, not 3G.
All in all the SAP V3 module is a very good solution, remember that SAP (SIM Access Profile) enables the use of the car phone as a car phone which offers the best reception and general audio performance. SAP is supported on recent Blackberry's but not as yet on the iPhone.
Wish they had a version with a handset though.
Justin.