Newbie servicing question

[Tugrul]

Hello everyone

Sorry to bother with newbie question. I had my merc in March as a used car.It is 2007 C200 Manual Kompressor with 104K mileage (yes manual!)

I got B service due in 20 days in dash board. Since I don`t have any experience with mercedes service I really appreciate your opinions.

I live in Worting West Sussex , I got got an independent Merc service called Independent Mercedes Specialists | Worthing | Sussex | Goring
They have flying reviews and often mentions as `not the cheapest one`

Also there is another one called Cedars Garage Cedar Garage - All Car Services, Servicing & MOT test centre Worthing with flying reviews too but rather a generic service for all cars and online quote is 240£


I don`t have any problem with the car except sometimes drivers front light flashes .I think something is loose and park sensor scream out of nowhere. Also a minor cosmetic issue with the gear gator.

Also there are other options like Kwikfit but I`ll probably stay away from them after reading others experince in different threads.

It`s likely that will probably cost me more but given that this is the first servicing since i got the car may be it`s a worth for a professional to check it out. On the other I don`t want to spend twice given that B services consists of pretty standard items.

1. Synthetic Motor Oil Replacement
2. Oil Filter Replacement
3. Cabin Dust/Combination Filter Replacement
4. Brake Fluid Exchange
5. All Fluid Level Checks & Corrections Are Dependent On Factory-Recommended Service Intervals For Your Vehicle's Year & Model.
6. Tire Inflation Check & Correction
7. Brake Component Inspection
8. Reset Maintenance Counter

What do you think ? I`ve already asked for a quote from john Hayes but they haven`t returned yet

 

[190]

Given the age and value of the car I can understand you wouldn't want too pay too much for a service. It depends if your local Kwik fit branch is a good one but there is nothing in that list that is remotely beyond their ability to do. I'd do it all myself for under £50 but that's another story.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

I've posted the same before, my local KwikFit is alright.

The manager is a real car guy and they have looked after me well for routine stuff like oil changes and brakes. I find tyres are better value elsewhere. They use Fuchs oil to MB spec which some say is the same as the factory uses.

Appreciate that there are horror stories out there but the same can be said for indies and dealers.

 

[AMGeed]

Personally I would run the car down to PCS in Horndean and have a recommended Mercedes specialist do the work.
At your mileage you may need a spark plug change too.

Mercedes Benz & Smart Specialists | Prestige Car Service | Horndean, Hampshire

 

[zipdip]

Well as you admit that you do not know that much about mercedes cars,I would avoid Kwikfit,they sometimes take advantage of people by saying things need changing when there is nothing wrong with them,to be fair the quote of just over £200 is about right but if you can get in touch with Prestige Ollie will give you a fair price for the service and you can be sure it will be done right.

 

[Tugrul]

Given the age and value of the car I can understand you wouldn't want too pay too much for a service. It depends if your local Kwik fit branch is a good one but there is nothing in that list that is remotely beyond their ability to do. I'd do it all myself for under £50 but that's another story.

Thanks for your response. I just realised dashboard actually says `B1 service` . Is it different than what I thought as `B` service ? Any idea ?

 

[zipdip]

No it is still the big service from 2003-7 they had a variable service plan and they used letters A-H from 2007 they just have A and B services a good indy will also check the quality of the brake fluid as well they have a tester which is basically a traffic light test green ok amber you might think about changing it and Red well if you don't change it you might end up dead.

 

[BlackC55]

Thanks for the recommendations A B1 service stands for B service + brake fluid change. Of course, you would need to check through the service history to see when/if things like air filter and spark plugs were last changed as these come at certain time and mileage intervals.

Feel free to email me on [email protected] and I can get you a price.
Natacha

 

[Tugrul]

Thanks for the recommendations A B1 service stands for B service + brake fluid change. Of course, you would need to check through the service history to see when/if things like air filter and spark plugs were last changed as these come at certain time and mileage intervals.

Feel free to email me on [email protected] and I can get you a price.
Natacha

Thank you . i`ll email

 

[Petrol Pete]

OP check exactly what engine your car has. The Supercharged engine in C class of this vintage have a history of catastrophic failure. If it happens (unless you have a spare engine and the know how) your only sensible option is to have the car transported directly to the breakers yard to weigh it in.

There are even reports of this happening to cars that have a full service history and all oil changes. It was/is all down to low quality cam chain gears slowly wearing down ,the chain jumps and the engine is toast, normally putting it beyond economical repair. Get it checked out. Plenty info on the interweb. Find out which engine you have and search for yourself. And on here obviously.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

OP check exactly what engine your car has. The Supercharged engine in C class of this vintage have a history of catastrophic failure. If it happens (unless you have a spare engine and the know how) your only sensible option is to have the car transported directly to the breakers yard to weigh it in.

There are even reports of this happening to cars that have a full service history and all oil changes. It was/is all down to low quality cam chain gears slowly wearing down ,the chain jumps and the engine is toast, normally putting it beyond economical repair. Get it checked out. Plenty info on the interweb. Find out which engine you have and search for yourself. And on here obviously.

What a ray of sunshine!

 

[Petrol Pete]

Sorry doctor , but the OP needs the truth. I gave exactly the same medicine to someone with the almost exact same car virtually the same mileage and with the same engine recently, and upon inspection the chain was stretched and the teeth worn, it was close to going pop.

Mitsubishi engine I think, not 100% sure. Someone on here will know.

 

[markjay]

As Petrol Pete said, the M271 1.8L Kompressor engine can suffere from premature timing gear failure, which on a car of this age will be fatal.

It is paramount that the car is taken to an MB specialist who can thoroughly check it over and make recommendations.

PCS in Horndean are highly recommended, they have serviced my car for a number of years and I can't fault them.

In terms of service schedule:

Engine oil and filter change - at every service, schedule as per ASSYST

Pollen (cabin) filter change - every 2 years

Brake fluid change - every 2 years

Air filter change - every 4 years (but I would suggest every 2 years)

Fuel filter change - every 4 years / 40k miles

Spark plugs change every 4 years / 40k miles

Coolant change - every 15 years (if original long-life coolant)

Manual gearbox oil change - not sure...

Hope this helps.

 

[markjay]

...Mitsubishi engine I think, not 100% sure. Someone on here will know.

The M271 shares some design features with Mitsibushi engines, but it was fully developed and built by MB.

 

[Petrol Pete]

The M271 shares some design features with Mitsibushi engines, but it was fully developed and built by MB.

..except for the cam drive bits..Mitsubishi did them, or at least that's what I would say if I were MB

 

[Petrol Pete]

While on the subject, does the supercharger itself have a service plan ? bearings , oil etc ? I don't have a car with a supercharger, just curious.

 

[markjay]

While on the subject, does the supercharger itself have a service plan ? bearings , oil etc ? I don't have a car with a supercharger, just curious.

Some say the Kompressor oil needs to be changed, but there's nothing about it in the service booklet. Maybe there's a WIS document about it, I don't know.

The bearings are not routinely serviced, other than when refurbishing the unit.

On a whole Superchargers are more relaible than Turbochargers.

 

[Tugrul]

Thanks for all the information. I did not consider to control supercharge failure. That`ll be 1st to thing to ask them !

 

[markjay]

Also:

- PAS hydraulic fluid has no predefined change intervals, but needs to be topped-up and changed on condition (dirty or smelling burnt etc)

- With regards engine oil the minimum spec is MB Spec Sheet 229.3, but the recommended spec is MB Spec Sheet 229.5 (look for engine oil that meets this spec - it will be on the container). Other oil specs - e.g. MB Spec Sheet 229.31 or 229.51 - are for Diesel engines and not best suited for your M271 petrol engine.

 

[Petrol Pete]

Thanks for all the information. I did not consider to control supercharge failure. That`ll be 1st to thing to ask them !

No OP. Cam chain and cam sprockets are your first priority. as far as I am aware Supercharger problems are not that common with this car.