Nox, Adblue & My view on Remapping - Stone me down?

[jaymanek]

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[rf065]

Hmm, guy with an E500, 5 litre V8, lectures folk on car emmisions!
Virtue signal much?

 

[BTB 500]

Well, it probably doesn't emit much in the way of particulates or NOx.

I have a 5 litre V8 that produces negligible emissions of any type compared to most cars (because it averages under 1k miles a year) ...

 

[Skd884]

Hmm, guy with an E500, 5 litre V8, lectures folk on car emmisions!
Virtue signal much?

The stone throwing has begun - didn't take long.

slc/c class or a e500 lol let me think ......

 

[rf065]

Well, it probably doesn't emit much in the way of particulates or NOx.

I have a 5 litre V8 that produces negligible emissions of any type compared to most cars (because it averages under 1k miles a year) ...

Do you point your camera to the sky and announce that you care about the planet while driving this 5 litre V8, and tell others what they should be doing?
The phrase "do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind.

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[kam09]

Ironically the day after I purchased my current c class (from Jay at mercland) the engine light popped up and guess what you named it, it needed a new nox sensor!

 

[markjay]

Ironically the day after I purchased my current c class (from Jay at mercland) the engine light popped up and guess what you named it, it needed a new nox sensor!

Why some people still buy these MB Diesel cars with the AdBlue system, is beyond me... come-on people, do some research - a quick Google reveals all, no need for AI....

 

[T5R+]

Essentially agree with the rationale of the mechanical aspects.

Disagree why the consumer should pay for the car manufactures lack of R&D and in my view “fit for purpose”. Know of many people who have had to spend lots of money to rectify - one that sticks out, twice in the space of 3 years spent almost £2K at each visit to Mercedes.

Whilst much of this NOx fiasco has been ongoing - many people have been subject to the cost of living crisis. Unsurprising that people have gone down the cheapest route.

 

[Jobsworth]

Essentially agree with the rationale of the mechanical aspects.

Disagree why the consumer should pay for the car manufactures lack of R&D and in my view “fit for purpose”. Know of many people who have had to spend lots of money to rectify - one that sticks out, twice in the space of 3 years spent almost £2K at each visit to Mercedes.

Whilst much of this NOx fiasco has been ongoing - many people have been subject to the cost of living crisis. Unsurprising that people have gone down the cheapest route.

Not fit for purpose sums it up.

 

[BTB 500]

Why some people still buy these MB Diesel cars with the AdBlue system, is beyond me... come-on people, do some research - a quick Google reveals all, no need for AI....

MB don't have a great track record with hybrids though, which I think are the only other option now if BEV doesn't work for you. Even less choice for vans.

 

[markjay]

MB don't have a great track record with hybrids though, which I think are the only other option now if BEV doesn't work for you. Even less choice for vans.

I think that MB's petrol mild Hybrids (EQ Boost) are OK?

I believe that people may be buying MB Diesel cars due to the (perceived?) lower running costs.

 

[Bellow]

Essentially agree with the rationale of the mechanical aspects.

Disagree why the consumer should pay for the car manufactures lack of R&D and in my view “fit for purpose”. Know of many people who have had to spend lots of money to rectify - one that sticks out, twice in the space of 3 years spent almost £2K at each visit to Mercedes.

Whilst much of this NOx fiasco has been ongoing - many people have been subject to the cost of living crisis. Unsurprising that people have gone down the cheapest route.

A key point in the video is that deletion is not the cheapest route in the longer term.

 

[markjay]

A key point in the video is that deletion is not the cheapest route in the longer term.

And, it's not 'cheap' in the short term either - just perhaps cheap-er than the immediate alternatives.

The only recommendation we should be making is: avoid.

 

[TC350]

To save me l watching all 18 minutes of the video, is the guy just talking about NOx sensors on diesel cars with AdBlue? If so, I’m not interested.

There’s obviously no AdBlue with my petrol car, but it does have f*ing NOx sensors. I’ve made my views on them clear before, casting considerable doubt on the efficacy of the bit of software that declares them defunct.

 

[rf065]

A key point in the video is that deletion is not the cheapest route in the longer term.

A point I would disagree with. Hasn't cost me a penny over the last few years and the car runs better than it ever did. Just don't get it done by a cowboy outfit.

 

[Bellow]

A point I would disagree with. Hasn't cost me a penny over the last few years and the car runs better than it ever did. Just don't get it done by a cowboy outfit.

Has it added to its resale value? Or is it a car that will be given a big swerve? What's it going to be worth when the modifications are unearthed at MOT time (when testing for this is introduced)? What will that MOT cost in rectification to get the pass?

 

[ALFAitalia]

NOX is nothing to do with saving the planet or climate change....its all to do with air quality in cities......so him going on about the planet is slightly misleading.

 

[markjay]

To save me l watching all 18 minutes of the video, is the guy just talking about NOx sensors on diesel cars with AdBlue? If so, I’m not interested.

There’s obviously no AdBlue with my petrol car, but it does have f*ing NOx sensors. I’ve made my views on them clear before, casting considerable doubt on the efficacy of the bit of software that declares them defunct.

EVs don't have NOx sensors...

 

[markjay]

Has it added to its resale value? Or is it a car that will be given a big swerve?...

Neither. Future buyers will be unaware of this anyway. They'll only find out about it if they ever take the car to the dealer for a software update, which becomes less likely to happen as the car gets older.

..What's it going to be worth when the modifications are unearthed at MOT time (when testing for this is introduced)? What will that MOT cost in rectification to get the pass?

At current it's undetectable by the MOT test. If it ever becomes an MOT fail, then my guess is that it will simply write-off the majority of cars that had their AdBlue deleted - the cost of reinstatement plus the blank cheque that will need to written to the garage who then tries to fix the original problem will make this entire exercise uneconomical.

 

[ALFAitalia]

He might be right about the costings if you only repair it once.....but people have had several sets of these NOX sensors done and spent thousands.....Im not condoning it (also probably against site rules to advocate illegal practises anyway).....but I can fully understand the temptation to map and have no more NOx bills. And despite what he says I'm sure that many who map the out have no other issues as a direct result of it.