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Nox, Adblue & My view on Remapping - Stone me down?

Sounds about right! Might be different in Sweden, though.
It is very different, thankfully...
That might change, but it'll require some changes to legislation and such. We also have a different legal/justice system, for good or sometimes worse.

An example for the worse: A search warrant for your property won't be issued by the court or a judge. It will be given as a verbal order by an acting senior police officer in charge, often directly at the front door where the search is due. Sometimes it's a prosecutor issuing the search warrant, acting as the lead investigator in a perceived criminal case. Nowhere in the process will a search warrant be examined and vetted by a neutral part in the justice system as a judge or a court panel. It's all in the hands of the police officers at the scene. No checks and balances at all... And no official document laying down the basics for a search or how it's supposed to be done. No paper trail, no documents.
 
Best to ignore China then, still building 6 new coal fired power stations every year. They reckon they have enough coal to feed all their power stations for at least 30 years. And we worry about some remapped cars!

China isn't all bad:

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9,200 EVs crammed into a confined space for a long sea voyage ... what could possibly go wrong.

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65 EVs is quite different to 9100!!!
 
Well, today it happened.
"Check AdBlue" message came on, EML lit up and kilometer countdown to no start popped up later.

And of course we're in an other part of the country with our caravan, visiting family. Will take it to my local dealership Monday to scan for codes, won't be surprised if it's second NOx sensor. Might be pump or level sensor too, will hopefully know soon.

Getting that delete seems more than likely... Gotta know for certain what the problem is first. And for the record, getting a car that meets the family's needs in a certain price range didn't give much choice.
Petrol? Nope. Would have had to pay 50-100% more, not possible.
Hybrid? I need the towing capacity, definitely not!
EV? See all of the above.
 
DIE sel it's in the name,horrid noisy things - no thanks life's too short.
 
DIE sel it's in the name,horrid noisy things - no thanks life's too short.
Nah, the diesel engines are great!
(Opinion might be coloured by my previous jobs as a trucker...)

It's all the environment crap that's been forced upon them creating all the problems. Quick fixes that puts excessive costs on the owners.
 
DIE sel it's in the name,horrid noisy things - no thanks life's too short.
Haven't seen a comment like that for nearly 20 years!
My remapped c250 is very quiet and comfortable inside, does 60+mpg and still has 240bhp and 550nm of torque.
According to the trade, used diesel prices are consistantly selling for a higher % than petrol or EV because people still want them and they are harder to find.
 
According to the trade, used diesel prices are consistantly selling for a higher % than petrol or EV because people still want them and they are harder to find.

Harder to find because nobody is buying new diesels any more.

2025 YTD market share (to end of May) is just 5.6% - lowest of all engine types. Versus 49% market share for petrol. Diesel market share for the same period in 2024 was only 6.7% so not a new thing.

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...Petrol? Nope. Would have had to pay 50-100% more, not possible....

How do you mean? Are petrol cars more expensive in Sweden than Diesel cars? Or is Diesel oil cheaper than petrol fuel in Sweden (unlike in the UK)?
 
How do you mean? Are petrol cars more expensive in Sweden than Diesel cars? Or is Diesel oil cheaper than petrol fuel in Sweden (unlike in the UK)?
A petrol car meeting my needs is much more expensive because I'd have to find a much newer car. The model years in my price range are almost all diesels, that's what the market was like back then. Finding a used petrol Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Škoda with that capacity my family needs isn't doable here. Cars in this size and class are almost exclusively company cars, sales to private customers are pretty much non-existent. And the rules for company cars strongly favoured diesels until recently. It was hybrids for a few (2-3?) years and now it's EV's. It's slim pickings...

I can't afford a car from the 2020's, they're super expensive here. Prices on used cars went through the roof a few years ago, and new cars are outright silly. It's crazy enough that a Mercedes is a lot cheaper than a Volvo, in Sweden! Last car was a 2011 Volvo V70 D5 AWD. No engine issues at all, best engine ever, but 215k miles takes its toll on everything else. Had it for 10 years, I keep my cars a long time and drive them many miles.

So what should I buy when I need a large estate, capable of towing heavy loads with decent fuel economy? A used diesel was the only feasible alternative for me and the family.
 
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Might add that Volvo ending their diesels and estate cars had the effect of skyrocketing prices on used Volvo's here in Sweden. I payed £14,000 for my Mercedes in February. A similar Volvo would have cost me about £19,000.

A brand new Volvo in this class and size, with towing capacity, for out family needs is £100,000 now. Beyond crazy...
 
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Might add that Volvo ending their diesels and estate cars had the effect of skyrocketing prices on used Volvo's here in Sweden. I payed £14,000 for my Mercedes in February. A similar Volvo would have cost me about £19,000.

I see.

While AdBlue is bad news in general, MB's AdBlue is particularly bad. Perhaps opt for a Diesel car from a different marque? Or, alternatively, an older EU5 car - EU6 (meaning AdBlue) only became mandatory as of 2015.
 
I see.

While AdBlue is bad news in general, MB's AdBlue is particularly bad. Perhaps opt for a Diesel car from a different marque? Or, alternatively, an older EU5 car - EU6 (meaning AdBlue) only became mandatory as of 2015.
Yeah, I did make an informed decision. I knew the AdBlue and NOx would act up given some time and decided for my situation in Sweden a delete/re-map is the best way (for me) to go.

Aware of the legal stuff and all, I simply weigh that against my very real needs for the car and our economic possibilities.
I'll keep the car for a very long time (8-10 years?), as with all my cars, selling it AdBlue/NOx deleted won't be a major problem in ten years from now. If diesels are even allowed to sell on in a decade!

I don't run them into the ground, I absolutely take care of my cars! But considering the resale value for my S212 in another 10 years won't be much anyway the AdBlue/NOx delete can't possibly affect value much at all.
 

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