LimitedSlip
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Bet that dummy is in agony...
Pretty graphic to see it that way, but not surprising, there is after all almost nothing in front of you in a Smart.
Just have to hope fate and the probablities don't "select" you - bit like when on a 'bike.
Pretty graphic to see it that way, but not surprising, there is after all almost nothing in front of you in a Smart.
Just have to hope fate and the probablities don't "select" you - bit like when on a 'bike.
ROBB
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kinda reminds me of the Renault 5 GT turbo $hitboxes; might have been fun whilst on the road - but not so much tear-arsing thru the pearly gates backwards/inside out & on fire 
mind you - good tool for chav culling
mind you - good tool for chav culling
It's the first time I've seen that actual video, thanks for sharing, but I've see many similar ones before, a heavy car in an off-set frontal impact with a light car.
On the face of it you can take it too its natural conclusion where everyone drives increasing large and heavy cars in the perception that they are safer. Do we all go out and buy HGVs?
But frontal car to car impacts are not the only kinds of collision. How about a single car impact into a concrete bridge support? A heavier car will have more kinetic energy.
Or a light car being impacted on the side by a heavier car. The light car will quickly accelerate away reducing occupant cell intrusion.
If we all knew the kind of accident we were going to have then we could select the car accordingly. By unfortunately life is not as easy as that.
On the face of it you can take it too its natural conclusion where everyone drives increasing large and heavy cars in the perception that they are safer. Do we all go out and buy HGVs?
But frontal car to car impacts are not the only kinds of collision. How about a single car impact into a concrete bridge support? A heavier car will have more kinetic energy.
Or a light car being impacted on the side by a heavier car. The light car will quickly accelerate away reducing occupant cell intrusion.
If we all knew the kind of accident we were going to have then we could select the car accordingly. By unfortunately life is not as easy as that.
verytalldave
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Quote: "OK.. this now changes my mind on a Smart".............
Depends what your opinion was BEFORE you saw that clip.
Another vehicle that I would not like to be in and have an accident is the small van - the Bedford Rascal - and any of its derivatives. Absolutely NO forward crash protection I would guess at anything over about 20mph.
Depends what your opinion was BEFORE you saw that clip.
Another vehicle that I would not like to be in and have an accident is the small van - the Bedford Rascal - and any of its derivatives. Absolutely NO forward crash protection I would guess at anything over about 20mph.
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gromit
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The Smarts airbag look to be as much use as a balloon! If that was on a road the Smart would have ended up on the pavement.
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It's how it leaves the ground worries me - that's a lot of energy
Barbanasos
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Considering how small a car the smart is, it did pretty well on that impact. If you see the passenger cabin is not that badly bend, it just that the car bounce off after that could make an injured passenger worse.
There have been a couple of accidents in smart cars in Athens I've heard from friends at quite a speed and the passengers have walked out of them. I still think they are quite good for the size they are.
There have been a couple of accidents in smart cars in Athens I've heard from friends at quite a speed and the passengers have walked out of them. I still think they are quite good for the size they are.
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That's physics in slow motion that is.
Imagine what happens when ANY car hits an artic. It doesn't bear thinking about.
Whenever big things and little things collide, the little thing usually bounces off, disintegrates, fuses or a combination of all three.
That's why I liked rugby when I was about 12 years old - a combination of being the fastest sprinter, 6ft, and 11/12 stone meant I could do exactly what I wanted to on the school rugby field - they just bounced off or stayed well away.
I soon went off the whole thing when everyone else was as big - or bigger - and all that I had was a slight edge on pace - it still blooming hurt on frosty mornings!!
Imagine what happens when ANY car hits an artic. It doesn't bear thinking about.
Whenever big things and little things collide, the little thing usually bounces off, disintegrates, fuses or a combination of all three.
That's why I liked rugby when I was about 12 years old - a combination of being the fastest sprinter, 6ft, and 11/12 stone meant I could do exactly what I wanted to on the school rugby field - they just bounced off or stayed well away.
I soon went off the whole thing when everyone else was as big - or bigger - and all that I had was a slight edge on pace - it still blooming hurt on frosty mornings!!
Barbanasos
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Just to confirm that the above impact is not as bad as it looks for the smart, it is an NCAP 4 star car in passenger safety.
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Smart fortwo
Euro NCAP - For safer cars | Smart fortwo
hawk20
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People in 4x4s are 50 times less likely to be killed in crashes with another car than those of small and medium-sized cars, according to the Department of Transport.
The safest cars for drivers are the Land Rover Defender, Mercedes ML class, Toyota Landcruiser and Isuzu Trooper.
The cars with the worst records for driver deaths and serious injuries are the old-style Mini, the Fiat Panda, pre-1993 Nissan Micra, Daewoo Matiz and Suzuki Swift.
The DoT looked at police reports of more than 138,000 crashes from 2000 to 2004. Drivers of small and medium-sized cars involved in collisions with another car had a one in 200 chance of being killed, compared with fewer than one in 10,000 for drivers of people-carriers and 4x4s.
Just three per cent of 4x4 drivers were killed or seriously injured in collisions, compared with seven per cent of small-car drivers.
The figures were published on the DoT's website but the study has not been publicised.
The safest cars for drivers are the Land Rover Defender, Mercedes ML class, Toyota Landcruiser and Isuzu Trooper.
The cars with the worst records for driver deaths and serious injuries are the old-style Mini, the Fiat Panda, pre-1993 Nissan Micra, Daewoo Matiz and Suzuki Swift.
The DoT looked at police reports of more than 138,000 crashes from 2000 to 2004. Drivers of small and medium-sized cars involved in collisions with another car had a one in 200 chance of being killed, compared with fewer than one in 10,000 for drivers of people-carriers and 4x4s.
Just three per cent of 4x4 drivers were killed or seriously injured in collisions, compared with seven per cent of small-car drivers.
The figures were published on the DoT's website but the study has not been publicised.
Sp!ke
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NCAP doesnt compare apples with apples (or maybe it does)
Basically each class of car has a different class of NCAP so a NCAP 4 star rating on a smart does not mean it compares with any other NCAP 4 star rating of any other car that isnt in the same class.
If that was 4 stars, it just shows you how unsafe small cars really are.
If someone had been in that smart, I doubt he would have survived.
Sp!ke
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How does that compute?
50 times less? 3% of 4x4's -v- 7% of small cars?
It's in the small print.
50x more likely to be killed, not 50x more likely to be killed or seriously injured.
hawk20
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The 50 times less is for people in 4x4's being KILLEDHow does that compute?
50 times less? 3% of 4x4's -v- 7% of small cars?
The 3% versus 7% is for Killed or seriously injured.
Sp!ke
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Ahh... Thanks
