one ICE solution for everything?

Discussion in 'Electronics' started by Jpowell79, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. Jpowell79

    Jpowell79 Member

    Messages:
    30
    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Car:
    CLK55 (C209)
    Hi guys,

    am new to the forum and have just picked up a 2003 CLK55. It has a very basic cassette tape system in the centre dash, and just to the side of it, is an old nokia cradle.

    I have a few questions and was hoping someone could help.

    I'm looking for a solution which achieves the following:

    1. Allows me to connect my iPhone 4 via blue-tooth to the sound system, whereby I can answer calls from the buttons on the steering wheel.

    2. Allows me to play music from my iTunes library via Bluetooth.

    3. Satnav would be nice, but could live with directions being called out to me from Google Maps on my iPhone (via the speaker system in the car)


    Now I've seen a device from visee-o called the MBU-3000 which apparently lets you control your phone from the steering wheel, but from what I've read on the visee-o website, it's suggesting that it won't work with the Nokia cradle I have because it's not inside the arm-rest. It's basically saying that my Nokia phone set-up was an "after market" install?

    Out of curiosity, can the unit be moved to the armrest so it is out of the way and not on display?

    Can anyone confirm if it will still work even though my cradle is mounted next to the radio near the glove-box?

    Also, I'm personally not a big fan of the gold buttons and styling of the MBU-3000.......I've seen the MBU-1000 which is apparently it's predecessor, but actually looks more modern than the MBU-3000.

    Are there any major features I would be missing out on if I opted for the older (cheaper) MBU-1000, other than iPhone SIRI?


    Another potential option is to upgrade the entire centre unit. I've been looking at the NTG2.5 and NTG4. I would presume the NTG4 would be the most up-to-date, but would that fit into a 2003 CLK?

    Also, I think I read somewhere that the NTG2.5 would leave an unsightly gap around the edge if fitted into a "pre-facelift" CLK. Can anyone confirm this, or will it not work at all, and that I would have to get the Comand 2.0?

    And is the NTG2.5 "plug-and-play"? i.e. no soldering, rewiring, etc? If it's just a case of taking out a few screws, and un-attaching/re-attaching a few plugs, I would give it a go myself.


    Finally, has anyone tried an after-market solution? I have read that Dynavin, Pioneer, and Kenwood are the main ones to go for. Does anyone have any experience on these units, and are they as good as the Mercedes ones? I've heard that the Dynavin MC-2000 will not let you control your phone (answering calls, hanging up) from the steering wheel, although this posting contradicts this - (http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/electronics/115176-dynavin-instal-2003-clk-w209.html) Does the same apply to the other after market solutions?

    thanks guys
     
  2. trapperjohn

    trapperjohn MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    7,316
    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Location:
    Lancashire
    Car:
    124 300D 24V Estate
    :thumb:Welcome to the forum. When someone says that's a really interesting question - you just know you are going to get a carp answer :devil::D

    The answer from me is no - Sorry - but I bet someone here has the answer.

    CHEERS and good luck in your quest.
     
  3. A-AvantGarde

    A-AvantGarde Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    4,639
    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Location:
    South Bucks
    Car:
    2016 BMW F86 X6 M, 2016 BMW F30 320d, 2001 Mercedes C320 Elegance
    Hi & welcome to the forum from me.

    Sounds like you've done quite a lot of research already. Any chance you could post a picture of what your cradle looks like? Whilst it may well be aftermarket, some of the factory installs on the CLK were mounted were you've described.

    That's step 1.

    If you want SatNav and you want it fully integrated then a COMAND retrofit is the way to go.

    COMAND 2.0 will fit 'as is' although is a little dated now, although pretty much 'plug & play' you would need to get the car coded (on STAR) for the nav unit to show the instructions in the instrument cluster.

    You could retrofit one of the newer units but then you'd need to change the centre dash trim and the Upper Control Panel (switches for hazard lights, heated rear window, parktronic etc). A couple of people on here have done this before.

    Depending upon the typer of kit you have (e.g. if it's OEM Mercedes), I'd be tempted to go for a Viseoo with a COMAND retrofit.

    As for aftermarket units - afraid I can't comment on that but I can say I've read some uncomplimentary reviews of the Dynavin setup.

    Hope this helps.
     
  4. davidjpowell

    davidjpowell Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    4,890
    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2007
    Location:
    Doncaster
    Car:
    Range Rover Vogue, Volvo XC60 and crappy Pug 307
    I too have seen some not very good reviews of the Dynavin setup. I've installed an aftermarket Sony double din into my W210 but am missing many of the factory Comand features. I will be going back to the Comand, and installing an IO Play 2 for Bluetooth streaming and phone.

    Like you I use an app on the phone for navigation, although I will consider updating my nav CD for completeness.
     
  5. OP
    OP
    Jpowell79

    Jpowell79 Member

    Messages:
    30
    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Car:
    CLK55 (C209)
    thanks for the comment about the IO Play 2....never heard of them before but will take a look.

    So do no aftermarket solutions work with the buttons on the steering wheel, other than dynavin (which gets mixed reviews) ?
     
  6. mxs

    mxs Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    373
    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2003
    Location:
    Lowestoft
    Car:
    ML320 CDI Sport
    Kenwood, Alpine & Pioneer double din systems will work with steering wheel controls, if you do a search on the forums, this subject has been covered to death.

    Any of these makes will do EVERYTHING that you need and even TV if you want to go down that road.

    All the kit required i.e. facia adapters steering wheel adapters, wiring loom adapters are all available to buy off the shelf, so plug & play really!

    Have a google, and try the bay if you do not want to buy brand new.
     
  7. OP
    OP
    Jpowell79

    Jpowell79 Member

    Messages:
    30
    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Car:
    CLK55 (C209)
  8. richard

    richard Authorised Forum Sponsor Authorised Forum Sponsor

    Messages:
    6,018
    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2002
    Location:
    Berkshire, UK
    Car:
    MY04 SL55, MY18 GLC63s
    Thats factory fit.

    NTG2.5/4/etc will not go in your car, its either what you have, the approriate Comand 2.0, or complete aftermarket.

    The phone system in your car is purely that - i.e no bluetooth audio streaming. YOu can put in a MBU1000 or MBU3000. 3000 has new fast chipset, and suports Siri on phone. MBU1000 is now a very old product.

    We have a couple of MBU1000 left: Returned MBU-1000, full warranty & latest software | Mercedes Bluetooth & Phone | Comand Online Ltd
    MBU3000 more features shown here: ViseeO MBU-3000 Bluetooth for Mercedes Benz (enhanced MBU-1000) | Mercedes Bluetooth & Phone | Comand Online Ltd

    If you want to change out the whole system, and are not fussed about nav, but may want to add later, look at the Alpine 530BT, supports iPhone, iPhone, nice big double din touch screen, can add NAV module later, can add reversing camera too. Lovely reliable units :)

    Cheers

    Richard
     
  9. OP
    OP
    Jpowell79

    Jpowell79 Member

    Messages:
    30
    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Car:
    CLK55 (C209)
    thanks for the info. Can you recommend a good single-din unit that would fit well, and still allow steering wheel controls?

    I had a Sony MEX-BT9300u in my corrado and it was fantastic. Could stream audio to it from my iphone, google maps would call out to me, could answer the phone and dial numbers from the unit, etc.

    Any way I could get something like this to interface with all the steering wheel controls?

    Sony MEX-BT3900U BT3900U Bluetooth®-mp3/cd-hoofdunit met USB - auto-cd- & dvd-radio's | icecat.biz

    The more I think about it, I don't actually need a double din.....I can live with my TOMTOM in the car, I wouldn't watch tv in the car, I don't have rear parking cameras, etc, so not really a big need for a double-din.
     
  10. effbee584

    effbee584 Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    524
    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Location:
    Norwich
    Car:
    Jag XF 3.0S and 10 yr old Micra 1.2 auto with Air Con.
    Just had Halfords fit a Sony 9300 head unit to the Micra, all in about £140. It's Bluetooth, the iPhone 4S works through it perfectly (it claims to take up to 4 phones) and it also plays music via Bluetooth from the iPhone. Not a perfect solution but pretty good for the price.
    For Sat Nav I would add a separate TomTom or Garmin, lots to choose from £90 upwards.
    Or you could have an all in one Bluetooth Sat Nav pop out screen single DIN unit, top Clarion one is the NZ502E at £699. It would look good fitted.

     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.