Orange peel

Discussion in 'Bodywork' started by Mbirl, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Mbirl

    Mbirl New Member

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    Hi guys ,

    I have a new c class , 2 weeks old . Car is completely covered in severe orange peel , you don't even have to look closely to see it . Having very little satisfaction so far from the dealer . Would appreciate if anyone out there who has had a similar situation could let me know how they got on ?
     
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  3. A250 Bennyboy

    A250 Bennyboy Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Not fit for purpose take it back
    30 day return
    Cooling off
    F@@k em off if I was you pal but that's just me no messing about :thumb:
     
  4. alabbasi

    alabbasi Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    A good detailer can buff out orange peel. However if the car is brand new and you're not getting a result from the dealer, call the corporate office. The dealer will listen to them.
     
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    A250 Bennyboy Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Say it how it is pal sell it them back on negative feedback that it's not what you won't and you've changed your mind on the purchase
    That is if you have just bought the car within the last 30 days

    Other wise your stuck with it Oops Big Lesson Learnt
     
  6. Red C220

    Red C220 Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Questions:-

    In what way (legally) does this fall under "not fit for purpose".

    What does "30 day return" mean when applied to a new car?

    What's "cooling off"?

    I will expand on this as I have personal experience of this issue.

    I bought a new SL400 that was delivered on Christmas eve 2015. It's a little over a year old. I'd ordered the car in Designo Mystic Blue at a option cost of £5,750.

    It arrived with a distinct orange peel finish, pretty much like every other car sat in the showroom at Gatwick MB, including an S65 Coupe on site.

    It's not good, but it's the same with BMW and Audi.

    It can't be "polished out" (although it can be slightly improved) as suggested by another reply, my SL went to a professional detailer within a month of delivery and it was explained to me that I'd need to get the car wet sanded to solve the issue permanently. That in itself brings a number of other issues. Mainly, once wet sanded the paint needs a lot of upkeep to keep it looking show quality. So long term I decided to leave it as it is for practical reasons as I want to drive and enjoy the car, it's not a show piece.

    Is it acceptable? This is subjective. In an ideal world the paint finish should be better and I've seen some shockers, including a £100K car on display at Brooklands.

    You need to realise that most people simply don't see "orange peel" and that MB sell thousands of cars each year to people that never complain about paint finish quality (despite it not being great), so to that end they can reasonably demonstrate that the finish is fit for purpose based solely on delivered cars and lack of complaints.

    The reality these days is this is normal and acceptable, if you want mirror show finish paint you need to buy a Bentley or Aston Martin and even then you may have to reject that car to get it put right. Or you need to pay a good bodyshop to wet sand the car and machine polish it. Think circa £3k for a good finish.

    Go to a Ferrari showroom and take a detailing lamp with you and take a look at the paint on a £300K new car, It won't impress you.

    MB won't change, they will continue to deliver cars with this level of finish and thousands of people will continue to accept them as they simply don't see a problem.

    When MB rang me last month to ask what I'd like to replace our E Class with I explained I'd ordered an Audi due to paint finish and lack of paint/colour options for sensible costs and it's unlikely I'll be ordering another MB in the near future. Do they care? Probably not.
     
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    Mbirl

    Mbirl New Member

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    Thanks for the advice everyone. Will definitely not be letting it go because I couldn't look at the car the way it is ( it's that bad). I know that u can get a degree of orange peel on some new paint finishes if u look closely but this is so bad that you can't help but see it over the whole car even when standing back from it . Everyone that I have shown the car to have commented on it , even people that would not be into cars whatsoever . Also if trading in the car for something else the next time there would be major issues explaining the paintwork.
     
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