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Another bugbear in Supermarkets is the 10 items or less queue.
FFS it's quite simple, if you have more items than you have fingers then **ss off to another till
 
Another bugbear in Supermarkets is the 10 items or less queue.
FFS it's quite simple, if you have more items than you have fingers then **ss off to another till

What about if you've got half a dozen apples plus nine other items?
 
I love these threads. How did we get from piss-poor parking to Grannie Smiths in the space of a couple of pages?
 
As an aside, it's a private car park (Asda) so what law if any has been broken?

A policeman recently told me that if a shopping centre car park has been marked out with parking bays, left & right lanes, give-ways etc, then it is subject to motoring laws. Surprised me too.
 
Never understood why so many people take their children to the supermarket for the express purpose of shouting & screaming at them and from time to time smacking them.

Perhaps they are afraid that they will be grassed up to the Social Services if they do it at home.

I quite often take my four year old son to the supermarket ; I am generally going in for something or other , but Harris loves to come for a look at the toy department , or to get either a kids' magazine or some sweets .

I have to say I cannot remember him ever throwing a tantrum in any supermarket and I have certainly never had occasion to scream at him . I may occasionally raise my voice in a controlled manner ( no loss of temper on my part ) if he misbehaves , or even give him a measured slap across the wrist if he has done something that might result in harm coming to him ( such as going near a hot stove , or running around near traffic - but he knows the rules about such things these days so it tends not to happen ) and I need to make the point ( it hurts me more than it hurts him if I do that , and I can't remember doing it in months , so I am not a parent who goes around slapping children constantly ) .

If children are behaving badly in supermarkets and other places , I would blame it on bad parenting rather than the children themselves . I have a grown up daughter by a previous relationship who turned out allright , and my youngest seems to be doing just fine too .
 
When I take my two kids I have to walk up to the door of the supermarket holding the 1 year old and holding hands with the 3 year old, and carrying shopping bags, to get to where the suitable shopping trolleys are kept, so it is a lot safer and more convenient if the parking is not too far off. Also there is a difference between the parent spaces and disabled bays: in the latter case the supermarkets are fulfilling a statutory obligation, in the former they are catering to a core customer demographic - if they didn't they would hand a competitive advantage to another chain.

The real competitive edge would go to the first supermarket to provide bigger spaces for EVERYONE . Very few supermarket car parks are ever anywhere near full , so it would not hurt to provide bigger spaces at the expense of having a few less . It would still be right to have disabled and P&C spaces nearer the doors , but if the normal spaces were larger then you might not get so many people misusing the special ones , not people with 'special' cars parking selfishly across two bays .

The only place which seems to provide decent sized spaces is Costco , which is more of a 'cash & carry' than a normal supermarket .
 
A policeman recently told me that if a shopping centre car park has been marked out with parking bays, left & right lanes, give-ways etc, then it is subject to motoring laws. Surprised me too.

Indeed , RTA applies on any land with public vehicular access , regardless that it may be privately owned .
 
The question is what applies exactly...

I can understand that the general speed limits for example apply, but I doubt that the private land owner has the authority to put up legally binding road signs and marking...

So if the land owner puts-up a sign limiting speed to 10mph, then I would expect speeding above 10mph (but below 30mph) to be a civil dispute (i.e. breach of contract by the motorist) rather than a traffic offense that can be pursued by the authorities?

And the same would apply to parking and stopping, presumably - all civil matters?

Of course other offenses such driving without due care or talking on your mobile would be prosecutable, but not anything relating to road signs or marking put-up by the private land owner?
 
If children are behaving badly in supermarkets and other places , I would blame it on bad parenting rather than the children themselves.
100% correct. It's only bad parents who think otherwise.
 
The question is what applies exactly...

I can understand that the general speed limits for example apply, but I doubt that the private land owner has the authority to put up legally binding road signs and marking...

So if the land owner puts-up a sign limiting speed to 10mph, then I would expect speeding above 10mph (but below 30mph) to be a civil dispute (i.e. breach of contract by the motorist) rather than a traffic offense that can be pursued by the authorities?

And the same would apply to parking and stopping, presumably - all civil matters?

Of course other offenses such driving without due care or talking on your mobile would be prosecutable, but not anything relating to road signs or marking put-up by the private land owner?

For a start , vehicles still have to be road legal ( taxed , MOT'd , insured ) and you could be prosecuted if found with a defect just the same as on the public highway .

Your comments on speed limits are probably spot on , but other offences such as drink driving , DWDCA etc can be dealt with just the same as on public roads .

While 'road markings' and signage may not have much legal standing , in the event of a collision , or a pedestrian being knocked down , these would be taken into consideration by insurance , and possibly by police if someone was injured .
 

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