Petrol Warning Fail.

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Love the thread - enjoyable and entertaining reading.

I ran out of petrol once, many, many years ago in my teenage years. Ever since I try to fill up once the gauge gets to a quarter full. I've had the warning light come on once, but filled up within a few miles - so at least I know it works. I've never tried to change the display to show range or amount of fuel left - not even sure if I can do that on my car (E320 cdi 2009 vintage).

There might be lots of clever devices to tell you how close you are to whatever, and to remind you that you've started the engine, and while they're nice to have, I think it's possible to become too reliant on technology!

Orwic
 
Think fanaticism and you are starting down the right road, albeit with some way yet to go

Can you point out these fanatics so I know when to be on my guard?
 
To the OP - this is the best, most amusing thread I have read for some time - absolutely brilliant - thank you for that :thumb:

The practice of dry wit, tongue in cheek comments however will not curry favour with some members here when it involves any - and I do mean any - criticism of Mercedes Benz cars. Think fanaticism and you are starting down the right road, albeit with some way yet to go

Congratulations on maintaining a proper sense of decorum despite extreme provocation and please - do keep posting !!

The irony is, most of the hardcore fanatics, are the ones that drive 'old' MB's bought used. Exactly the type of people that do nothing for MB as a company, as they never have and never will buy a new MB. :D

Duck and cover :devil:
 
The irony is, most of the hardcore fanatics, are the ones that drive 'old' MB's bought used. Exactly the type of people that do nothing for MB as a company, as they never have and never will buy a new MB. :D

Duck and cover :devil:

No wonder, talking rubbish like that.

Firstly: those cars still need servicing and parts.

Secondly: If no-one bought cars 2nd hand, the value of new ones would plummet so no-one would buy new ones at the inflated prices that make manufacturers a profit.

Some of the reasoning we get one here is more backward than a 2 year old would give...:wallbash:
 
Hardly anyone buys 'new' from Mercedes though, they're all leased... ;)

in 2011 (the latest full data):
- 62.9% of all new car purchases used dealer finance,
- 20-25% of used car purchases used dealer (i.e. manufacturer) finance.

Of those,
- PCP was used in 61% of transactions (up from 58% in 2010).
- HP fell from 34% to 30%.

(Source: Finance and Leasing Association quoted by BDO LLP)

so "hardly any" = 37.1% of cars have no finance
and "all leased" = 38.3% are sold on PCP

About the same as it turns out!

In a sense of course no individual buys new from Mercedes as Mercedes, along with most car manufacturers, are manufacturer and a wholesaler not a retailer. We buy from independently owned, franchised dealers, not manufacturers
 
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- 62.9% of all new car purchases used dealer finance,

About the same as it turns out!

Not quite, what about those companies that buy en masse not using dealer finance? And the lease deals are so cheap that its a no-brainer, who'd lay out 60 bags when you can lease one cheaper than the depreciation?

I know a couple of DP's that say only roughly 10% of new cars are sold 'for cash' ie without either their finance or a lender.
 
No wonder, talking rubbish like that.

Firstly: those cars still need servicing and parts.

Secondly: If no-one bought cars 2nd hand, the value of new ones would plummet so no-one would buy new ones at the inflated prices that make manufacturers a profit.

Some of the reasoning we get one here is more backward than a 2 year old would give...:wallbash:

Eeeesh hit a nerve have we? :D

Firstly: Many of these enthusiast owners go Indie, which return almost nothing to MB other than perhaps STAR membership (if they use STAR).....Indies are usually ex MB trained technicians, further draining the MB franchise. MB paid for the training.

Parts? Again many are quite happy to buy after market parts. Parts blatantly copied from MB designs. What contribution do they give back to MB? But in any case, OEM spares sales are hardly a lucrative business. As an example I can quote massive Land Rover specialist spares sales companies, their accounts do not look good, despite huge turn over.

Secondly: Yes if you buy 1 owner used cars (preferably AUC), but many are so far down the previous owners chain, they make sod all difference.
 
Hardly anyone buys 'new' from Mercedes though, they're all leased... ;)

Absolutely, but sales are sales however acquired. After all, MB are in full control of the situation whether it's massive discounts to lease companies, or pay on tick to private individuals.
 
Eeeesh hit a nerve have we? :D

Firstly: Many of these enthusiast owners go Indie, which return almost nothing to MB other than perhaps STAR membership (if they use STAR).....Indies are usually ex MB trained technicians, further draining the MB franchise. MB paid for the training.

Parts? Again many are quite happy to buy after market parts. Parts blatantly copied from MB designs. What contribution do they give back to MB? But in any case, OEM spares sales are hardly a lucrative business. As an example I can quote massive Land Rover specialist spares sales companies, their accounts do not look good, despite huge turn over.

Secondly: Yes if you buy 1 owner used cars (preferably AUC), but many are so far down the previous owners chain, they make sod all difference.

You do realise Mercedes don't actually make parts that are "copied" by after market suppliers? The likes of Mann filters and bosch as an example supply Mercedes.

Oh and I can't believe this thread is still going.....
 
You do realise Mercedes don't actually make parts that are "copied" by after market suppliers? The likes of Mann filters and bosch as an example supply Mercedes.

Oh and I can't believe this thread is still going.....

I do, I'm in the Automotive trade :p
 
in 2011 (the latest full data):
- 62.9% of all new car purchases used dealer finance,
- 20-25% of used car purchases used dealer (i.e. manufacturer) finance.

Of those,
- PCP was used in 61% of transactions (up from 58% in 2010).
- HP fell from 34% to 30%.

(Source: Finance and Leasing Association quoted by BDO LLP)

so "hardly any" = 37.1% of cars have no finance
and "all leased" = 38.3% are sold on PCP

If you read that back you will see that it only mentions finance from either MB financial services or dealer supplied finance.

What about finance via other means, such as external lease company or other method of finance.

I suspect very few people buy cars using their own money. I'll put myself on an exclusive list...;)
 
If you read that back you will see that it only mentions finance from either MB financial services or dealer supplied finance.

What about finance via other means, such as external lease company or other method of finance.

I suspect very few people buy cars using their own money. I'll put myself on an exclusive list...;)

Sorry, just trying to use what independent facts are available, I'll try suspecting and confidently asserting.:rolleyes:
 
Sorry, just trying to use what independent facts are available, I'll try suspecting and confidently asserting.:rolleyes:

Great, you have the facts. :)

What percentage of cars were financed outside the dealer or MB Finance facility?
 
Is this tread still going ?

Surely it must have run dry by now. :dk:
 
Is this tread still going ?

Surely it must have run dry by now. :dk:

What like the op's fuel tank? Nope it keeps getting topped up.
 

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