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Tim203

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Interesting how many people nowadays days are trying to hold back the tides of time. Hats off to Patagonian for his Pilates post. I'll be 50 next year and have been a professional pub sportsman for many a year, never been much overweight, but often been to the osteopath. Always been pants at sport and therefore not participated. 3 years ago I joined a martial arts club and just a couple of hours once a week has made all the difference to my general fitness and I only generally have a beer on Friday night after work now and don't miss it. So I don't think it matters what you do, just move about more and you'll get some benefits and loose weight . The hardest part is often walking through the door of the sports hall or wherever it may be but I am a firm believer that you feel better for it.
 
I am huge fan of growing old disgracefully.

Spent most of my youth club cycling (mainly time trials and long training runs) so I have avoided the knee problems a lot have due to impact injuries as a result of football or running.

I have a dog so walk frequently and also try to look after my diet. I am a fan of the 5:2 diet.

However long I have left on this mortal coil, I intend to enjoy it at a leisurely pace doing things I like.
 
Interesting how many people nowadays days are trying to hold back the tides of time. Hats off to Patagonian for his Pilates post. I'll be 50 next year and have been a professional pub sportsman for many a year, never been much overweight, but often been to the osteopath. Always been pants at sport and therefore not participated. 3 years ago I joined a martial arts club and just a couple of hours once a week has made all the difference to my general fitness and I only generally have a beer on Friday night after work now and don't miss it. So I don't think it matters what you do, just move about more and you'll get some benefits and loose weight . The hardest part is often walking through the door of the sports hall or wherever it may be but I am a firm believer that you feel better for it.

Tim, From my experience over the past year, with one or two exceptions, you are flogging a dead horse on here trying to open discussions of this nature. Folks just don't want to talk about it. Maybe because they don't exercise other than the bare minimum to get around or they choose to keep their health to themselves.

Ironically it's only when somebody gets seriously ill because of the issues created by a sedentary lifestyle or consistent over indulgence that they are forced to make a change or face the inevitable.

Some facts from the NHS. A little out of date so probably even worse now.

One in four British adults is obese, according to the UN Food and Agriculture Organisation, prompting fears that the UK has become the “fat man of Europe”.

The UK has the highest level of obesity in Western Europe, ahead of countries such as France, Germany, Spain and Sweden, the 2013 report says.

Obesity levels in the UK have more than trebled in the last 30 years and, on current estimates, more than half the population could be obese by 2050.

Europe's obesity league:

UK: 24.9%
Ireland: 24.5%
Spain: 24.1%
Portugal: 21.6%
Germany: 21.3%
Belgium: 19.1%
Austria: 18.3%
Italy: 17.2%
Sweden: 16.6%
France: 15.6%


Being a very big guy I realised long ago that I had to put exercise at the very top of my personal agenda. Else end up like a fat, retired heavyweight boxer. It's tough and never ending. I need to exercise at least three times a week and try to do something at least 5 times a week. Sometimes, as I did last year, overdoing it and being rushed to hospital with side effects from using NSAIDs to reduce swelling from a ligament injury incurred during over zealous ski erging.

So there has to be a balance. I'm probably OTT about it. As I am about somethings. But taking your health and diet seriously is probably the best investment you can make and of course, it’s free - avoiding all those sh:tty arguments about cash v finance that seem to figure here now and again ;)
 
Tim, From my experience over the past year, with one or two exceptions, you are flogging a dead horse on here trying to open discussions of this nature. Folks just don't want to talk about it. Maybe because they don't exercise other than the bare minimum to get around or they choose to keep their health to themselves.

Ironically it's only when somebody gets seriously ill because of the issues created by a sedentary lifestyle or consistent over indulgence that they are forced to make a change or face the inevitable.

Or

Their physiology consistently confounds the medical profession at every turn; despite being professionals, medical types have been making lazy assumptions based on appearance and generalisations for decades now…much easier to look at a chart or do simple arithmetic to get a BMI than look at people's health on an individual basis. And when the findings/numbers don't match their perception, that really perplexes the white-coated dogmatists, the poor dears.

Or

A person carries a work related injury that resulted in seven years of private physio on an almost weekly basis and two major operations and now they live in dread of being back in constant, agonising pain again but this time as a result of a self-induced training injury.
Rock and hard place, springs to mind; live in a relatively pain free way for potentially less time or gamble living the same length of time (or maybe longer) in agony.

Besides, you don't get those extra years when you are an indestructible demigod, you get them at the end when some bureaucrat shoves you in a room to drool and sells all your assets for new office chairs and a works outing.
 
I do swashbuckling.


(Sorry.... it was *there* :D )
 
Interesting how many people nowadays days are trying to hold back the tides of time. Hats off to Patagonian for his Pilates post. I'll be 50 next year and have been a professional pub sportsman for many a year, never been much overweight, but often been to the osteopath. Always been pants at sport and therefore not participated. 3 years ago I joined a martial arts club and just a couple of hours once a week has made all the difference to my general fitness and I only generally have a beer on Friday night after work now and don't miss it. So I don't think it matters what you do, just move about more and you'll get some benefits and loose weight . The hardest part is often walking through the door of the sports hall or wherever it may be but I am a firm believer that you feel better for it.

Couldn't agree more. I am now 50 and 18 months ago I was 105kg which at 5'7" isn't good. Decided to eat a bit more sensibly, cut out alcohol (which admittedly wasn't hard as I have ever been a big drinker) and exercise. Walking, gym and cycling... not stupid levels or anything, just sensible. 81kg today and still heading down, BUT the most important thing is I feel so much better for it. It's like 10 years have come off me. Now it's all just part of my life, it's not even a chore and I look forward to the break and peace that exercise affords me.

Oh and as a homage to the thread title.... ahhhhhhhhhhhh! ;) :D
 
Or

Their physiology consistently confounds the medical profession at every turn; despite being professionals, medical types have been making lazy assumptions based on appearance and generalisations for decades now…much easier to look at a chart or do simple arithmetic to get a BMI than look at people's health on an individual basis. And when the findings/numbers don't match their perception, that really perplexes the white-coated dogmatists, the poor dears.

Or

A person carries a work related injury that resulted in seven years of private physio on an almost weekly basis and two major operations and now they live in dread of being back in constant, agonising pain again but this time as a result of a self-induced training injury.
Rock and hard place, springs to mind; live in a relatively pain free way for potentially less time or gamble living the same length of time (or maybe longer) in agony.

Isn't much of this because the NHS is drowning under the weight of conditions related to how people look after themselves, leaving little or no time for the cases that need a little tlc?


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much easier to look at a chart or do simple arithmetic to get a BMI than look at people's health on an individual basis.

and often by a doc who themselves would do a good job of tethering a Zeppelin.

Besides, you don't get those extra years when you are an indestructible demigod, you get them at the end when some bureaucrat shoves you in a room to drool and sells all your assets for new office chairs and a works outing.

And there's the biggest irony of all.
 
Yep my younger years are coming back to haunt me, knees now starting to suffer slightly from impact injuries in my Rugby days. So I have started exercising to strengthen the muscles and try and do a bit of preventative care.

As the original OP points out the hardest part is getting off your ass and getting through the door, glad I did I have now lost 3.5 stones and still going :bannana: feeling great :bannana:
 
Thanks for all your replies sensible and hilarious. You all brighten up my sometimes very stressful day. What a great forum this.
Tim.
 
Their physiology consistently confounds the medical profession at every turn; despite being professionals, medical types have been making lazy assumptions based on appearance and generalisations for decades now…much easier to look at a chart or do simple arithmetic to get a BMI than look at people's health on an individual basis. And when the findings/numbers don't match their perception, that really perplexes the white-coated dogmatists, the poor dears.

Indeed. This topic was featured on 'Trust Me, I'm A Doctor' not so long ago.

They ordered people in their BMI range.

Then re-arranged them based on how healthy they were based on BP, triglycerides, LDL, etc. and the range completely changed.

I guess like most things - BMI is an indicator but not to be relied upon solely.
 
@JohnEBoy
I'm not surprised at all at that. Amongst my friends and family, I am by far the largest BUT I have better actual health that the keen runners/cyclists/rugby players/stick thin types…think the body of Budha with physiology of an athlete.

I read very recently that 'they' have changed their minds; a normal amount of fat in the diet IS good for you after all so we can eat butter (as opposed to margarine, for example), rubbishing decades old claims that ALL fat is bad for you and by association, debunking the low-fat (but high calorie) products and lifestyle.
Lazy thinking is anathema to me and it is rife in the medical profession which is why they are 'blessed' with such profoundly certain opinions.
 
30 years ago I was fortunate enough to have a friend who's parents were top dietary therapists who ran college courses. I can consider myself lucky to have been informed about sodium potassium balance and the benefits of magnesium as a balancing catalyst and interestingly that a small amount of butter is always better than margarine as GVM states above. Also the potential harm of artificial sweeteners as the body does not recognise them and cannot process them . I'm no doctor but I like to think taking heed of that advice has done me some good.
 
Enough of this namby pamby rubbish. I don't exercise, enjoy the occasional fag, have a few beers and eat whatever takes my fa
 
I would just like to point out in this health-focused thread, the news of my Uncle Eric in the hope that it might help others.


Active all of his life and never a visit to the Doctor, he recently contracted the most dreadful of fevers.
All the medics were puzzled and even the tropical disease specialists couldn't help and we were left with only the option of alternative medicine.

Maud, Eric's wife of 63 years was dead against the alternative medicine route and insisted we cover his back with a thick layer of grease.

He went downhill very quickly after that...
 
Ted said:
Enough of this namby pamby rubbish. I don't exercise, enjoy the occasional fag, have a few beers and eat whatever takes my fa[/QUOTE

^ Top bloke
 
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I would just like to point out in this health-focused thread, the news of my Uncle Eric in the hope that it might help others.


Active all of his life and never a visit to the Doctor, he recently contracted the most dreadful of fevers.
All the medics were puzzled and even the tropical disease specialists couldn't help and we were left with only the option of alternative medicine.

Maud, Eric's wife of 63 years was dead against the alternative medicine route and insisted we cover his back with a thick layer of grease.

He went downhill very quickly after that...


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