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As a m/cyclist myself, it's always reassuring to see a guy knocked off his bike by a car, referred to as "a simple accident"!
I liked your post, but it sometimes is just that.
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As a m/cyclist myself, it's always reassuring to see a guy knocked off his bike by a car, referred to as "a simple accident"!
There has been a few scientific studies relating to this, I read a really good one a few years ago but cannot find it now.
They found that in a lot of these collisions, the driver did see the m/cycle but their brain did not process the information as they were not expecting to see anything, so pulled out anyway.
The US explanation above is pretty poor, but the principle involved is still the same.
I only remember it was carried out by people with more knowledge than us and related to how the human brain processed information. But the findings were that many people do actually see the m/cycle, yet still proceed to pull out anyway. I've seen drivers perform dangerous manouvres in front of me even though I could see the whites of their eyes and they were looking straight at me. I don't doubt for a minute that the studies were not accurate.My phone wouldn't let me type...
How is this study possible?
Did they send out drivers to not see bikers?
Or asked them after accidents?
If the later, so they the driver that hit a motorcyclists admitted seeing them but then said their brain didn't compute the Information?
Genuine question.
The US explanation above is pretty poor, but the principle involved is still the same.
Some years ago, I remember seeing an app, I think, on a M/C Forum where, in a series of little flashing lights, one or more of them 'stayed off' although in fact, it was still flashing. If I remember correctly, the purpose of the app was to demonstrate that something could be in your full field of view and you not see it. Maybe some of the bikers on here can remember that?There has been a few scientific studies relating to this, I read a really good one a few years ago but cannot find it now.
They found that in a lot of these collisions, the driver did see the m/cycle but their brain did not process the information as they were not expecting to see anything, so pulled out anyway.
The US explanation above is pretty poor, but the principle involved is still the same.
I know this to be fact.I read about the science behind this some years ago. I seem to recall that when you turn your head your brain effectively stitches together a series of static images and narrow items can get lost and the brain simply does not register it’s presence.
It may be a bit of sphericals, but not entirely. Inattentional blindness (also known as perceptual blindness) is all too real. It‘s far more than a general lack of attention, it’s a lack of detailed attention brought about by distractions. A quick glance to the side, when turning at a junction for instance, can cause the brain to ’fill in’ the image where a moving object is in the field of view, particularly when it’s a smaller object such as a bike that’s moving towards you. It’s not just the size of the object, it’s the length of time we spend looking to see if there’s one there.What a load of boll0cks.
Its just general lack of attention, nothing deliberate or scientific.
Some people just try and make excuses to keep their jobs, the above quoted is a fine example.
Bikes are small so sometimes you don't see them, that is an unfortunate part of riding bikes.
I ride bikes.
As a motorcyclist I agree, you must ride defensively and expect that all motorists are a danger. I do find most motorists respect us but there are some nutters out there with a clear hate for us.I know this to be fact.
Recently I was walking along the footpath on the offside of the road and watching cars on the nearside heading away from me towards a speed camera. I couldn't believe that what I 'saw' was the car would appear and disappear as I tracked it with my eyes.
My brain was stitching together a series of images to play a 'video' of what I was looking at and some of those images were lost.
As a motorcyclist I am very aware of this and always think that the driver has NOT seen me. The same applies when driving a car.
Did the moped/bike approach from in front of your Mother’s car, or from the rear?Bikes do come out of nowhere and unexpectedly , I've been turning right at a junction with the indicator on, and had these food delivery bikes overtake and fly past my right hand side.
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