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policing.
i'm sure you take the thrust of the point.
if the tax payer (i'm presuming we all foot the cost of securing the US embassy and it's not the US govt) is paying for 6 - 8 armed police on the pavement and the considered opinion is that their deterrent/capability isnt compromised by standing talking to motorists then why not stop and search as part of the job? seems logical to me.
just one additional thought....
when ever speed cameras/ANPR cameras are discussed on here people rant about how a camera can't detect bad driving just excess speed. and how speed doesn't kill inappropriate speed does.
i have no doubt that if i had hooned round a corner at 29mph, on one wheel narrowly missing a pedestrian i would have been given a ticket.
presumably an example of non camera based (non speed based) policing that MB Club would wholeheartedly support.....but the authorities still get flak.
when ever speed cameras/ANPR cameras are discussed on here people rant about how a camera can't detect bad driving just excess speed. and how speed doesn't kill inappropriate speed does.
i have no doubt that if i had hooned round a corner at 29mph, on one wheel narrowly missing a pedestrian i would have been given a ticket.
presumably an example of non camera based (non speed based) policing that MB Club would wholeheartedly support.....but the authorities still get flak.
Rovinghawk
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I totally agree. But what HAD you done wrong in order to get pulled? That's MY point.
RH
Rovinghawk
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Take it a step further: why not take your wallet out & check none of your credit cards are fake? Examine your cash, too, for the same reason?
Then they can strip-search you for drugs, trawl through your laptop for kiddy-porn and check everywhere you've been this week in case it might have been for criminal purposes.
I'd say that's going too far; I said the same about the original stop & search for no good reason, regardless of how polite they are at the moment.
RH
well nothing... thus providing a level of protection against criminal who has figured out a system that ignores road legal vehicles - a complaint often levelled at ANPR cameras on this very board
i dont know of anyone who is suggesting taking it further and so feel you are stretching the point somewhat. Unless a convincing argument is made for increasing the stop and search in its scale and scope i would be against it. and given the opposition that you have (and echoed by many others) at the level now any further steps would be resisted very strongly to put it mildly.
the power, voting and cynicism of the British people rather undercuts the theory that a police state is round the corner.
Rovinghawk
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Thanks very much- I feel my point is clear.
Possibly you underestimate the slyness of the powers-that-be and the gullibility of the public. A good example is the pensions raid disguised as only affecting rich gits with share portfolios.
RH
your point is clear just not supported by the majority of the voting population - thus explaining its absence from the manifesto of any of the major parties.
if you think there is the possibility of me underestimating the slyness of powers that be then you must concede that you could be overestimating it too. is every politician, public figure and spokesperson more gullible than you? if not why is it not more than a vocal minority who are worried about this? either we are blessed to have an intellect such as yours deign to spend time discussing with us gullible ones or .... its not such a big issue as you make out.
i know which way my money is going
Rovinghawk
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No, but their noses are much deeper in the trough.
Yet?
I genuinely hope you're right & I'm paranoid.i know which way my money is going
RH
so the only to possibilities that you can see for people are they are either gullible or benefitting from the system?? there isn't a third much more likely explanation which is that most people have understood what is going on and don't see it as a problem?
once again i don't mind your opinion but characterizing opposing views as either crooked or ill informed really undermines your argument.
Rovinghawk
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Rovinghawk
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But who's to say I was listening? For all I know, you might be a collaborator.
RH
RH
jimti
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apart from the strip search that is a regular occurrence for me and any other truck driver in France.maybe for different reasons though, I have learned to live with it
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I am....I'm in thought, internet and data division. the only way you don't support the police is that you don't drink the tap water and wear your tinfoil hat for at least eight hours a day...
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Is that Burton-Race the chef?
