SavMan
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Your "stock" file is also probably a remapped file as you were already mapped prior to fitting the pulley.
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5.4s in the C32, 6.3s in the C43, 6.4s in my previous C43 and 6.6s in my C36.
All times taken as an average of six runs and all in the dry.
I've got the 40-70mph figures somewhere, I'll post them when I find them.
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If you're not going to feel the effects of a map etc what's the point in having one, headline figures?
SavMan
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3.70 secs E55 Estate 
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Trax 2012 - 3.7 Seconds Mercedes 0-60mph - YouTube
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Trax 2012 - 3.7 Seconds Mercedes 0-60mph - YouTube
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3.70 secs E55 Estate
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Trax 2012 - 3.7 Seconds Mercedes 0-60mph - YouTube
0-60's are pointless Paul, don't ya know!
Correct.
0-60's are pointless Paul, don't ya know!
To measure a difference in power from an ecu and pulley tune on the op's car yes, it's actually stupid.
And just so you know Paul's 3.7 to 60 was done on slicks, the car has well over 100bhp more then the standard model, this was " only" 3 or 4 tenths quicker then a standard E55. What does this tell you?
What does this tell you?
We should all go to Vmax instead??yes/no???
Lol, yes Vmax is better for sure! Ricky we should tell Craig to drop the Vbox and fancy timing equipment and just spend 20 pounds on a stopwatch!
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It tells me something I already knew; once you're under 5 seconds then it costs thousands of pounds to shave tenths of a second off a 0-60 time.
And are you saying that a standard S211 does 0-60 in 4.0-4.1 seconds?
The simple facts are if the OP has had a map/tune whatever and the car doesn't feel any faster/different, what was the point of doing it? So instead of him going out to and paying money for a dyno, he can go out and do some of his own tests for free and go from there.
flango
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Save the money on the dyno and buy the dynolicious app it works briliant for a fraction of the cost
If you want to compare results on a dyno then it has to be the same dyno, same day and same operator anything outside of that i.e. different days different operator then it aint worth the paper its printed on for comparison purposes.
The OP is a classic remap pulley mismatch plenty of people out there dont have a clue how to remap once the pulley has been changed.
If you want to compare results on a dyno then it has to be the same dyno, same day and same operator anything outside of that i.e. different days different operator then it aint worth the paper its printed on for comparison purposes.
The OP is a classic remap pulley mismatch plenty of people out there dont have a clue how to remap once the pulley has been changed.
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Lol, yes Vmax is better for sure! Ricky we should tell Craig to drop the Vbox and fancy timing equipment and just spend 20 pounds on a stopwatch!
It doesn't matter if the car feels no different from a standing start or between say 40-70mph, as long as the dyno says there is more 'power', that's all that matters then...
SavMan
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I think you are all missing the point here which is why I asked if he was referring to the "stock" and "performance" options in the Euroflash software.
His car was already remapped by Eurocharged, he has then installed a pulley. After the pulley he would have created a eui file in Euroflash this became his "stock" file, Eurocharged would then have amended the file to include the additional fuelling needed among other things for his pulley change.
So the car has a pulley and the two options are
1. "Stock" file (which is in fact a Eurocharged remap in this case)
2. "Performance" file (which is in fact a Eurocharged map adjusted as above)
The performance difference may well in fact be neglidgeable but equally there could also be issues in the car or the map. Power runs, 0-60, 1/4 mile runs & top speed will only prove if one is faster/more powerful but what you really need is to know why not if.
His car was already remapped by Eurocharged, he has then installed a pulley. After the pulley he would have created a eui file in Euroflash this became his "stock" file, Eurocharged would then have amended the file to include the additional fuelling needed among other things for his pulley change.
So the car has a pulley and the two options are
1. "Stock" file (which is in fact a Eurocharged remap in this case)
2. "Performance" file (which is in fact a Eurocharged map adjusted as above)
The performance difference may well in fact be neglidgeable but equally there could also be issues in the car or the map. Power runs, 0-60, 1/4 mile runs & top speed will only prove if one is faster/more powerful but what you really need is to know why not if.
SavMan
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Slicks do make a huge difference but most of the standard 55K's were over 4.5 secs on that day. I think Alps put a 4.43 so I was in fact .73 secs faster
That said anything less than a 1/4 mile is so difficult to judge as the launch makes such a difference to the time.
Sir I don't think you have driven a supercharged AMG Mercedes let alone one that's had a pulley and ECU, if you did you would know that they have huge torque and very difficult to launch, add more boost and you have an even bigger problem, hence why one would have a very hard time noticing the difference on a 0-60 run on the road with a stopwatch, ie pointless, that's my argument nothing more nothing less.
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SPX don't think you really understand the point of a dyno, if everyone thought like you, the dyno operators and tuners may as well pack up and go home, we have a lot of guys on here that are just trying to help, I don't know why you are being disrespectful, I for one don't care for 0-60 times, for the reasons that have already been pointed out, we have a bigger picture here, it's about performance drivability, mph, torque and many other factors.
It's no wonder persons get annoyed with this forum and sit in the back ground, seems every other thread someone is out either to disagree for the sake of it or to be on some sort of wind up, not why I come here, information and advice is what the OP is after you have turned it into another pointless thread. Clearly we are preaching to the unconverted I get that. Just remember at least what section of the forum that you are posting in and show a little respect to others that possibly know a bit more than you.
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Didn't realise I was, I'm just trying to save the OP a few quid. If you find someone 'disrespectful' because they challenge something; that's your problem, not mine.
This is a forum and things get questioned on a forum. A pointless thread would be one without replies...
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okay on the euroflash software I have got the options of either factory flash which will be a unmodified map and also a performance flash , both feel exactly the same and others say after having this done there should be a massive difference there just isn't .I have done a few pulls in 3rd gear and I cannot tell any change really between the 2 different settings . i have now replace the intercooler with a second hand unit that was pressure tested and the car hasn't used any coolant now for the last 3000 miles so its not that i didn't change the pump though , don't get me wrong im not saying the car is slow and just not really feeling the benefit of the pulley & tune like i was expecting . the only thing i can think is my car already had been mapped by a previous owner supposably so when i added the pulley i got a small gain but but when i got the eurocharged map it was just replacing 1 tuned file for another 1 so it was a bit hard to tell the difference. hopefully eurocharged will get back to me today im hoping something minor is not right because i want to fell a massive difference like everyone else has
SavMan
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Sorry if I am being thick here but are you saying you have not noticed any difference after fitting the pulley to before the pulley or that with the pulley fitted you don't notice a difference between the stock and performance settings?
