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R231 SL350 24 hour test drive

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Thanks to MB Bishop’s Stortford, I had this for 24 hours over the weekend.

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It impressed me much more than I expected it to.

Engine:
The 3.5 liter V6 is smooth, almost turbine like, and quite quick (this is relative!) once it gets going. However, it is too quiet, and what sounds it makes, seems a bit synthesized (even though it is not) and a touch dull. It is free revving, and eager to rev; responsive in Sport and Manual mode and really a fine engine. Economical too at motorway cruising speeds .. I got it to 36mpg on the motorway, a figure I haven’t seen in years and years.

The relative lack of power does mean that the power is more usable during spirited A and B road driving. Downsides are that you have to been much more aware of the gear you are in, and the mode you are in .. it’s not a point and squirt car. You need to plan your overtakes .. something I don’t even think about in my CLS55. There were a number of times I was in the wrong gear in manual mode when hoping to take advantage of a gap. I was also bemoaning the lack of torque in some corners which I entered in too high a gear. I imagine that the SL400 with 110NM more torque (480v370) and 27hp more (333v306) will be address these ‘issues’ and be perfect for the ‘baby’ SL.

7G+ Gearbox:
Mostly excellent. Superbly smooth and quick on up shifts. Clumsy and clunky on some downshifts, ones where engine speeds increase significantly. That could be because the engine is not quick enough to rev up, but the matching of gear and engine speed is poor, leading to a slight shunt and jerk. 7G+ is light years ahead of the 5 speed auto in my CLS55.

E mode is sluggish and lazy, like a not fully awake teenager. Sport mode is OK, but has shades of a teenager having drunk too much red bull; holding on to low gears for too long with revs too high; I suspect the SL400 will improve things with its 110NM additional torque.

Ride:
Generally superb for a roadster. The chassis absorbs bumps beautifully, with bumps being more heard than felt with suspension in Comfort. Where there are multiple bumps of differing sizes and severity, the ride falls apart a bit like someone losing his cool when trying very hard not to. It’s not terrible, it’s just quite different from the way it deals with one off bumps. Overall though, ride is leagues ahead of the SLK and the E class Cabriolet. On good or decent roads, ride is excellent.

In Sport mode, body control is noticeable better, with sharper turn in and flatter cornering. However, the car feels a touch brittle and unsettled on our nasty roads. Nothing to worry about, but noticeable.

Steering and handling:
SL is a wide car. It’s pointy and agile, even taking account of its size. Steering is the weakest part of the car. At town speeds, utterly artificial, lifeless and play station like; completely devoid of any feel or weight. At higher speeds on fast A and B roads, steering is much improved as there is a bit more weight, but still no feel. You really have no real clue what the front tyres are doing or how much grip you have. The only way to decipher how hard to go is how much lean and roll the body (less than I expected) is experiencing. After more driving and experimenting, the SL can be hustled into and out of corners. It flows well and is fluid on fast A roads. I had a great time with it on Essex and Herts A and B roads. I was really surprised how much fun there is to be had.

The rear axle is not as well tied down as I would like. At times during aggressive throttle inputs, the rear tyres felt a wee bit overwhelmed with a noticeable loss (but not significant) of total control and grip (more torque will no doubt make this worst). It needs care in the wet.

The roof:
When closing and opening, it thunks and clunks, almost as if to let you know it’s locked closed or sprung open. This detracts from the calm and well engineered impression that it gives generally. I expected Mercedes to do better, to remove all traces mechanical shudder. Perhaps the test car’s roof needs adjustment.

Roof up, very refined. With just under 3000 miles, there was already a persistent interior rattle which I could not pin down. Worrying, and not acceptable for Mercedes’ flagship roadster.

Roof down, electric wind deflector (optional) deployed and all 4 windows up, the cabin is well protected. Buffeting and wind noise is present, but not intrusively. Not as calm as a Porsche 911 (991) Cabriolet though, but much better than SLK and E Class cab.

The boot lid appears to be carbon fibre .. the underneath has carbon fibre weave.

Interior:
Too much plastic. For example, the A pillars are hard plastic (cloth would be better) which jars with the rest of the interior.

The seats, covered in nappa leather (optional!), are superb. Once adjusted, they were fabulously comfortable. They are designed for large Germans! Would be great if the side bolsters were adjustable to hold you in more, but that can only be had with the £1725 dynamic multi contour seat package. There is no simple and less expensive multi contour seat package for some reason.

The COMAND dial, the suspension and gearbox settings are set too far back for me. It required some contortion to reach these buttons, which mars an otherwise good driving control environment. It’s shocking that on such an expensive car, ambient lighting is not standard.

Frontbass sound is impressive once set up to your tastes. If anything, it’s is too bassy. The treble is occasionally shrill and slightly screechy at high volumes. However, for a standard sound system, much better than other set ups. Other niggle is that there is no fader (front/back adjustment) control.

While the interior is mostly well built and solid, and the design is functional and looks OK, the disappointment is that the interior does not have that bank vault depth of solidity and indestructibility that a flagship Mercedes should have. The interior of my CLS55 feels more substantial, with for example, real metal door opener handles (SLs are metal effect plastic). The metal look plastic seat controls are flimsy, cheap and nasty; the black plastic on my CLS is much better. Another example is the blind for the panaromic roof: on the R230, the was a catch to move it, on the R231, no catch and the blind is less "well oiled" as the R230 blind. When you see these details being compromised, you wonder what else they have cut back on.

In Summary:
As time passes, I have grown to like the looks of the SL. Yes, it’s a bit ungainly with the enormous rear and rear overhang. However, it is one of the few modern Mercs with a relatively clean design without too many ‘features’ such as creases, strakes and other decoration. I do like the high bonnet and the double fins on each side, it felt good looking past them on the road.

Colour and interior choices on the SL is very limited, and mostly unimaginative, unless you go AMG. Even then, there’s less choice than the E Class Cab for example. Folks spending lots of money on an SL want choice, not the very restricted palette on offer; perhaps this contributes to the low sales volumes.

It is also a rare car, and other folks seem to like looking at it (it is white, after all!).

It is the driving experience and package that is most impressive; the car feels well developed (with some exceptions noted above), handles with aplomb and grace in most driving situations (not track days), rides like a proper Mercedes should and goes well, even with a ‘small’ engine. I came away liking it much more than I had anticipated. It has hidden talents and is a car one can enjoy owning, and getting to appreciate its many talents. I am genuinely surprised that there are so few on the roads.

R231 SL is, for the first time, a serious contender for my next car. I am waiting to try the SL400, the SL350 is just not powerful enough for me. Salesman says I should get the SL500, but that is £10000 more than the SL400.
 
I agree with most of that I'd say. I didn't pick up on this plastics though, I'll have to look a bit closer next time I'm in mine.

Boot lid isn't CF, that's just a liner and not real CF either, I've no idea why they put it in. My 13 reg one had black cloth.

Neither of mine developed a rattle, though my new one only has 700 miles on it so far.

I think the SL400 would be far better, though the 3.5 aspirated is a great motor once you've learnt which gear is best for various situations.
 
I didn't pick up on this plastics though, I'll have to look a bit closer next time I'm in mine.

perhaps your expectations are lower given the much reduced price you pay :D
 
Coincidentally Sean ( hope you're well), my next door neighbour has just one as a courtesy car also. I'll go out in it and pass on your comments. His E 63 keeps cutting out , the new 5.5 one.
 
Coincidentally Sean ( hope you're well), my next door neighbour has just one as a courtesy car also. I'll go out in it and pass on your comments. His E 63 keeps cutting out , the new 5.5 one.

am well, and hope you are too.

would be interested in your neighbour's views. No doubt he will find it gutless!
 
Great write up.

I agree, I have the same engine in my C204, great powerful & efficient engine but lacks the noise big time, it's way too silent even when you are revving it near 7K rpm, hardly get much noise.

it's an excellent cross country engine, imo, mine goes to France once every month.

Regarding the roof I have exactly the same on my SLK55, it thunks and clunks even when it's shut sometimes.
 
I agree, I have the same engine in my C204, great powerful & efficient engine but lacks the noise big time, it's way too silent even when you are revving it near 7K rpm, hardly get much noise.

first thing I would do if I got a V6 SL is to remove the rear/center resonator
 
I have beaten several sl350 in my c350-I think mine weighs a bit less :)
 
Thanks for the great write up.

Interesting that it also has an interior rattle at such a low mileage. That was one of the reasons that I couldn't live with the SL500.
 
Also, I walked into BS MB the other day and despite having my 2 year old C63 parked right outside (doors all open as a hot day, and they heard me manoeuvre, of course) not a single one of the young guys working could be bothered to come talk to me as I sat in an E63 and then an A45....carried on hunched over one of the computers on Facebook....
 
I just can't get over how big the rear clusters are on these....

they look smaller on darker cars :)

Also, I walked into BS MB the other day and despite having my 2 year old C63 parked right outside (doors all open as a hot day, and they heard me manoeuvre, of course) not a single one of the young guys working could be bothered to come talk to me as I sat in an E63 and then an A45....carried on hunched over one of the computers on Facebook....

they must have thought that you were driving your Dad's car. to get attention, you must look like an old fart like me.

seriously though, the salesman has been fine. I did ring ahead with a specific test drive request, which might have made a difference.

Still no rattle in mine!
perhaps you just can't hear the rattle(s) as they are drowned out by your exhaust :)
 
Great write up Sean.
I test drove this today and I must say I was pretty impressed. At about 125K list though I can think of a few others I would rather have. Did like the engine though (coming from a n/a 63) felt more 'grown up'. Definite low down lag though. And some rattles!! Not acceptable in a car at this price IMO.

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Great write up Sean.
I test drove this today and I must say I was pretty impressed. At about 125K list though I can think of a few others I would rather have. Did like the engine though (coming from a n/a 63) felt more 'grown up'. Definite low down lag though. And some rattles!! Not acceptable in a car at this price IMO.

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acej took me for a quick spin in SL63 (pre mods) and it was vaguely scary how quick it is.

I agree, rattles are really unacceptable at this price level
 
Thanks to MB Bishops Stortford, I took an SL400 out for about 1 hour on a mixture of motorways, A and B roads yesterday morning.

It is quite a leap from the SL350. In fact, the SL400 makes the SL350 'obsolete' ..

Engine:
The 3.0 liter bi turbo V6 is responsive (suprisingly so for a bi turbo), smooth and very torquey. It has just the right balance of torque and power, enough torque to make the car fast, but not so much as to overwhelm the rear wheels, especially in 2C ..

The increased torque makes all the difference between the SL400 and the SL350. It's like being 21 again when you are 40. Tremendous feeling.

The exhaust is quite loud, but not at all intrusively so. Much more volume than either the SL350 or the too quiet SL500. Trouble is, the sound is a bit one dimensional; volume increases, but no real interest or change in tone or other characteristics.

Overtaking is a lot more confident -- when you do stamp on the throttle, it goes, and quickly. You have enough power to drive at a fair lick on public roads without putting your licence at too much risk. Impressive.

Sport mode is a bit cranky as it holds on to lower gears for longer than necessary -- it's not an issue, but could be better. Economy mode is sluggish as it really doesn't want to change down unless you shout loudly that you want a down shift. Best is actually manual mode which works well, with some blipping on downshift.

Unlike the SL350, I was never wrong footed by being in the wrong gear.

The 400 is an engine worthy of the baby SL, it has given it credibility and performance you have a right to expect for a top line Mercedes roadster.

7G+ Gearbox:
The additional torque and power means the 7G+ works better than ever. It's very quick on upshifts, downshifts are not clunky or clumsy, but not as fast as upshifts. Pretty good overall.

Ride:
I may be imagining it, but ride seems to be better than the SL350. Perhaps it's the additional 45kg of engine on the front axle, but it rides better over really bad roads than the SL350 did. Perhaps Mercedes has retuned the suspension and/or altered other things, but it was a bit of a revelation. Especially when ambient temp was around 2C and tyres were cold. It is as taut and as well damped as my CLS55.

Seems to me that this iteration of the R231 has come of age, and matured into a well resolved and well judged car. It is 2.5 years since the R231 was launched so I think 'development' has really improved it.

In Sport mode, unlike the SL350, the car didn't feel brittle and unsettled on our nasty roads. You need really nasty to stuff to notice anything unpleasant.

Steering and handling:
Steering feel is the same as the SL350.

The rear axle on the SL400 seems better resolved. During aggressive throttle inputs, the rear tyres were not overwhelmed, and there was not any noticeable loss of total control and grip. This was one of the more noticeabe improvements over the SL350.

The roof:
Amazingly, the SL400's roof was much quieter when closing and opening, with barely any thunking and clunks. Perhaps the SL350 I drove was not adjusted properly.

The SL400 has about 2500 mies, interior was completely rattle free, felt solid and well built.

Roof down, 4 windows and wind deflector on, air scraf on max, heating on high, it was lovely driving at all speeds during yesterday morning's sun. I was only wearing a t shirt and a shirt, and I didn't feel cold at all. The front vents kept my hands warm, and air scarf was superb. All in 2C.

In Summary:
4 months after the SL350 experience, the SL400 is a revelation in many ways. Most, if not all, of the SL350's deficiencies have been dealt with, and the R231 has morphed into something quite desirable, at least for me.

Despite the brash diamond white paint and the fussy black wheels, I am really getting quite fond of the R231's shape.

Again, I really enoyed looking out over the high bonnet and the double fins on each side, it felt great, and it all adds to the SL's allure.

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