Rear Facing Speed Cameras in Police Cars?

Discussion in 'Driving/Incidents/Roadrage' started by developer, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Gazzdid

    Gazzdid Member

    Messages:
    50
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2013
    Location:
    midlands
    Car:
    C200 kompressor sports coupe
    ??? Really ??? Exceeding the statutory speed limit on a public road is a criminal offence. Perhaps you could share your wisdom and explain to me then how, by exceeding the statutory speed limit on a public road I am not committing a crime.
    If there is no crime committed there can be no criminal conviction so I should imagine a lot of people will be interested in this info
    Cheers
     
  2. MarriedBlonde

    MarriedBlonde Active Member

    Messages:
    961
    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Location:
    Sunny South Coast (Nr southampton)
    Car:
    C63 AMG Coupe/ML350 Cdi Sport/69 vw Bus
    Breaking the speed limit, you are breaking the law, breaking the law you are commiting a crime are you not?

    And if you are really breaking the speed limit they can and do give out custodial sentences

    J.
     
  3. Gazzdid

    Gazzdid Member

    Messages:
    50
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2013
    Location:
    midlands
    Car:
    C200 kompressor sports coupe
    As far as im concerned that's right, but markjay seems to think different which is why I've asked him to explain his earlier statement in more detail.
     
  4. DSM10000

    DSM10000 MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    6,780
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Location:
    Near Salisbury
    Car:
    E32O CDi Sport, MX5 1.8 Sport, RR 4.2 SC
    You are breaking a law but it is seen as a recordable offense and is classified as a civil matter which is why, unless there are aggrevating circumstances, it can be dealt with by issuing a fixed penalty notice and does not generally need to be dealt with by a court.
     
  5. meeeb

    meeeb Active Member

    Messages:
    416
    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2013
    Car:
    E Class 350 CDI 265
    I think that you are in error there J. Maximum is £1000 fine and 6 penalty points.
     
  6. DSM10000

    DSM10000 MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    6,780
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Location:
    Near Salisbury
    Car:
    E32O CDi Sport, MX5 1.8 Sport, RR 4.2 SC
    Because excessive speeds can also be see as dangerous drivingi n certain circumstances and this, if conviceted carries a maximum penalty of 2 years imprisonment.
     
  7. WOODYTHEWISE

    WOODYTHEWISE MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    3,771
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2011
    Location:
    E AYRSHIRE
    Car:
    E 500 Coupe.
    duplicate post
     
  8. DSM10000

    DSM10000 MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    6,780
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Location:
    Near Salisbury
    Car:
    E32O CDi Sport, MX5 1.8 Sport, RR 4.2 SC

    Bit early in the day to be seeing double John?:D
     
    1 person likes this.
  9. MarriedBlonde

    MarriedBlonde Active Member

    Messages:
    961
    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Location:
    Sunny South Coast (Nr southampton)
    Car:
    C63 AMG Coupe/ML350 Cdi Sport/69 vw Bus
    So speeding by any definition you are commiting a crime. The charge changes I'll agree.
     
  10. MarriedBlonde

    MarriedBlonde Active Member

    Messages:
    961
    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Location:
    Sunny South Coast (Nr southampton)
    Car:
    C63 AMG Coupe/ML350 Cdi Sport/69 vw Bus
    Lets say I am caught in my car doing 160mph on the m3 one night (I live down south so use it a lot :) ). I won't get 6 points and a £1000 fine will i? I dought it I reckon I would be locked up quicker than I can post on here for advice. :)
     
  11. janner

    janner MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    2,816
    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2003
    Car:
    E320 Turbo Technics
    At 160 you'll be charged with dangerous driving, not speeding.
    You can't be locked up for speeding.
    If you can show that 160 wasn't dangerous then you'll escape a prison sentence.
    Good luck with that though...
     
  12. MarriedBlonde

    MarriedBlonde Active Member

    Messages:
    961
    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Location:
    Sunny South Coast (Nr southampton)
    Car:
    C63 AMG Coupe/ML350 Cdi Sport/69 vw Bus
    edited: My argument doesn't stack up even to me :)
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2014
  13. WOODYTHEWISE

    WOODYTHEWISE MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    3,771
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2011
    Location:
    E AYRSHIRE
    Car:
    E 500 Coupe.
    Max fine for speeding on a motorway is £2500, according to a Google search.
     
  14. DSM10000

    DSM10000 MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    6,780
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Location:
    Near Salisbury
    Car:
    E32O CDi Sport, MX5 1.8 Sport, RR 4.2 SC

    No, you are committing an offence, you do not receive a criminal record for speeding, it is an offence against the Road Traffic Act.

    It becomes a criminal offence when combined with other factors , for example, if it brings a charge and conviction for dangerous driving .

    Criminal law, and motoring law are two distinctly different branches of the legal system in the UK. Similarly, there is difference between statute law, and criminal law
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2014
    1 person likes this.
  15. Gazzdid

    Gazzdid Member

    Messages:
    50
    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2013
    Location:
    midlands
    Car:
    C200 kompressor sports coupe
    Well I'm glad that's cleared that one up then :clap:
     
  16. MarriedBlonde

    MarriedBlonde Active Member

    Messages:
    961
    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Location:
    Sunny South Coast (Nr southampton)
    Car:
    C63 AMG Coupe/ML350 Cdi Sport/69 vw Bus
    Sorry but speeding is a criminal offence.
     
  17. DSM10000

    DSM10000 MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    6,780
    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2011
    Location:
    Near Salisbury
    Car:
    E32O CDi Sport, MX5 1.8 Sport, RR 4.2 SC
    What are you basing this assumption on? If you are convicted of speeding you do not get a criminal record.
     
  18. Dieselman

    Dieselman Banned

    Messages:
    34,206
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2003
    Car:
    Peugeot 403 Convertible
    It's not, it's a motoring offense.
     
    1 person likes this.
  19. MarriedBlonde

    MarriedBlonde Active Member

    Messages:
    961
    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Location:
    Sunny South Coast (Nr southampton)
    Car:
    C63 AMG Coupe/ML350 Cdi Sport/69 vw Bus
    Ok i will hold my hands up and apologies stating i am wrong if you can show me where on a uk law referrence site or the dft's site or in the rtoa or the rta where it states speeding is not a criminal offence.

    And i dont mean piston heads forum or something similar.

    J.
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2014
  20. Dieselman

    Dieselman Banned

    Messages:
    34,206
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2003
    Car:
    Peugeot 403 Convertible
    Why don't you show us where it says it is. ;)
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.