Road deaths/casualties fall...

[pammy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7635345.stm

So whatever is causing them to fall can only be good.

Interesting and perhaps not surprising are the general factors for incidents relating to young/older drivers

 

[mattc]

Have a look at the full report (all 196 pages).

As with all these stats the devil is in the detail - cars are safer know than those on the road at the time of the BASE figues (from 1994-98). Start looking from about page 108 onwards were it breaks down these figures. I get the impression we are having just as many accidents but that safety systems are helping reduce the carnage (especially to pedestrians), particularly at lower speeds. Deaths on motorways almost identical as i would guess the speed involved overwhelms even the current safety systems. Dont think its the Government responsible for this (other than the car manufacturers being wary of their NCAP ratings )

Still nice to see the toll reducing; lets hope it continues.

Full report here

 

[Meldrew2]

And the period matches the wettest summer for years - and when it's raining, where are the pedestrians?

They're inside, keeping out of the rain.

It's damn difficult to run over a teenager when he's in his 1st floor bedroom playing on his X-Box......

 

[pammy]

Must admit - I love statistics - there's lies, damn lies and then statistics - allegedly........

But, that said taken on face value fewer people have lost their lives or been injured this summer. Better safety systems in cars is bound to contribute - but also the price of fuel this summer has seen fewer cars on the road too which would also contribute.

I don't know if the report covers it but I'd be interested in the value add of the figures ion looking at the weighting for better safety features and also the effect on the number of vehicles on the roads.

Might have a look at that report later this evening after I've done the ironing

 

[Ted]

I put it down to all of the safety cameras.

Roads were much more dangerous before them.

 

[Mudster]

I put it down to all of the safety cameras.

Roads were much more dangerous before them.

Light touch paper....stand back ....wait.......

 

[Nibbo]

Must admit - I love statistics - there's lies, damn lies and then statistics

It's a well known fact that 73% of statistics are made up on the spot and the other 42.25% are inaccurate.

 

[prprandall51]

It's damn difficult to run over a teenager when he's in his 1st floor bedroom playing on his X-Box......

I know. So frustrating...

 

[Dieselman]

It's damn difficult to run over a teenager when he's in his 1st floor bedroom playing on his X-Box......

I know. So frustrating...

It just takes practice.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4490000/newsid_4495500/4495561.stm

 

[Shude]

I know. So frustrating...

One does one's best!
http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=15286

EDIT: Dieselman: great minds!

 

[evdok]

Petrol prices tend to slow people down aswel...

 

[dchester]

Might have a look at that report later this evening after I've done the ironing

And if it is just all damn lies then run over the reports author with the iron.

D.

 

[grober]

The only validity to these figures would be a fall in death rate in relation to the total number of vehicles/drivers on the road. To compare year on year may only be a reflection of fewer drivers on the road from the previous year rather than a fall in the accident "RATE"
One explanation might be that younger drivers are simply being priced off the roads by rising costs of insurance VED and fuel?

 

[normanr]

It may be a factor that the bad summer has cut the weekend traffic down

 

[mattc]

figures are per 100 million kilometre of road journeys - so does take into account that there are more cars than 14-10 years ago

 

[Swiss Toni]

I know that "3000" or "2999" make no bloody difference when you are involved in "1".

Whether you are responsible, a passenger, a witness, a cop, ambulance, fire, medic....

The trauma of being involved at first hand with just "1" of these is truely horrific. I WOULD wish that trauma (the mental anguish and the effects for some time after, not death) on any drink driver.
I WOULD wish just a taste of it for every young driver and for every older driver who *thinks* they know how to handle a car thank you very much.

Until you have been there, first hand, and felt life eb away in such stark, violent circumstances you can not begin to understand what "1" of those means.

And I hope you never do.

Stuff the stats.

If 8 families lose a loved one today, that will be "business as usual".




If you think your job has bad days, you should try Unmarked's

 

[Meldrew2]

It just takes practice.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4490000/newsid_4495500/4495561.stm

And how's that for accurate journalism...

"The two drivers of the car were injured..."

Was the BMW a dual control driving school car?

:bannana:

 

[Meldrew2]

Until you have been there, first hand, and felt life eb away in such stark, violent circumstances you can not begin to understand what "1" of those means.

I've read a couple of Inspector Gadget's posts on the same subject. An awful end to anyone's life - and anyone who has to respond to such events and still stay professional, do the job, stay calm - well, I know I couldn't.
.

 

[Peter DLM]

These stats make me laugh, in a way.....

So, less than half the accidents were young drivers.

That means that MORE than half, 58% were by experienced drivers. Also, younger drivers probably more likely to be doing more mileage per annum.

But it said there "was no room for complacency", with drivers between 16 and 29 years old making up 42% of all driver fatalities

 

[stevesey]

figures are per 100 million kilometre of road journeys - so does take into account that there are more cars than 14-10 years ago

Although that doesn't take account of traffic density (higher density now
will impact the per-mile figures). There must be a "optimum" density for fatal accidents, too dense and traffic slows, too sparse and it's difficult to have multi-vehicle pile ups or head-ons.