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Hey Guys, I need to replace the main battery in my 2012 c220 CDI estate, it currently has an AGM battery fitted which is having issues starting, mechanic said it is at 50%. Question is do I need to replace it with an AGM battery as I can’t say I definitely have start stop just an eco button which isn’t working right now probably due to the low battery. Any clues or help would be appreciated
 
Have a look on Tayna.co.uk and see what they say for your car, usually the cheapest with next day delivery too.
 
Try MB for a quote, also slow charge it first as that might rectify the issue.
 
I would think that 2012 has stop/start. Without going into the garage I can't recall if it says eco on the stop/start on/ off button. AGM batteries should be replaced with AGM as they have slightly different (higher) charging voltage to the older wet batteries and the car's system is set up for AGM. A pain, as they're more expensive, especially if you don't use the stop/start.
 
Hey Guys, I need to replace the main battery in my 2012 c220 CDI estate, it currently has an AGM battery fitted which is having issues starting, mechanic said it is at 50%. Question is do I need to replace it with an AGM battery as I can’t say I definitely have start stop just an eco button which isn’t working right now probably due to the low battery. Any clues or help would be appreciated
Ever thought it might be your glow plugs or relay ??

Give it a smart charge for a day , it'll probably sort itself out . AGM isn't connected with stop start on everything tbh. My w211 e320 on a 2004 had AGM battery . They are better batteries than lead acid for holding charge over short journeys for instance. There's more to them than simply stop start .
 
If you have stop start/eco button the auxiliary battery may be faulty too if its the original one.
That would explain why the eco light isn't green.
 
AGM means = Absorbent Glass Mat which is inside the battery and in simple terms it means the acid isn’t slipping around inside the battery. It’s nothing to do with stop start . The battery can be laid on its side which is why they are often used in motorcycles which don’t actually have stop / start - except for a few modern scooters .

By main battery do you mean the starter battery?
My 2008 SL ( no stop/start) has a modest sized starter battery in the front and a much larger convenience battery in the boot . Oddly the convenience battery is AGM stop/start which im guessing is perhaps something to do with the way it’s charged? Either way I keep that battery on a trickle charger as that’s the one that gets drained when the car is standing - keyless , immobiliser etc
 
For clarity, I'm not sure anybody is saying that AGM is anything to do with stop/start, however, the reality is that most (all?) cars fitted with stop/start were fitted with an AGM main battery as factory-fit and an original-fit AGM battery should be replaced with an AGM battery.

An older-style wet acid battery would work but it wouldn't be ideal due to the charging set-up on newer cars.
One potential problem buying from a non-local online supplier is if there is a need to return it as not all couriers will transport car batteries and one of the online MB stores no longer delivers main batteries, though they will supply the auxiliary batteries.
 
For clarity, I'm not sure anybody is saying that AGM is anything to do with stop/start, however, the reality is that most (all?) cars fitted with stop/start were fitted with an AGM main battery as factory-fit and an original-fit AGM battery should be replaced with an AGM battery.

An older-style wet acid battery would work but it wouldn't be ideal due to the charging set-up on newer cars.
One potential problem buying from a non-local online supplier is if there is a need to return it as not all couriers will transport car batteries and one of the online MB stores no longer delivers main batteries, though they will supply the auxiliary batteries.

My 04 reg e320 was listed as having a high output alternator, lead acids would boil dry within weeks . It's not just newer cars . More so AGM found maybe on a diesel ???
 
Hey Guys, I need to replace the main battery in my 2012 c220 CDI estate, it currently has an AGM battery fitted which is having issues starting, mechanic said it is at 50%. Question is do I need to replace it with an AGM battery as I can’t say I definitely have start stop just an eco button which isn’t working right now probably due to the low battery. Any clues or help would be appreciated
From what I read, cars ECUs don't like you changing the type of battery. Also, AGMs are significantly better for cold starting and handling large voltage drops before recharging.
Check whether this one fits your car. 110AGM Car Battery 12V 80Ah 800CCA Duracell Extreme Start/Stop - 3 Year Warranty | eBay
Remember to have the battery registered with the ECU by a garage, or you may go into limp mode.
Lookers Main Dealer would not just register a battery I bought elsewhere.
 
You may be right. The article that I read also said that the new battery would not last long if not registered with the ECU. I was repeating advice I picked up on the net, but it may have been from a battery installer with profit in mind. I personally can't see why the car would not charge a new battery until it reached its maximum accepted voltage, whether the old battery could only take 12v and the new one takes 13.2v.

After charging for half a day, my old battery shows as being fully charged and trickle charging with a NOCO AGM charger until I open the doors and bonnet, when it goes back to one red light (25% charged) and when I switch on the ignition a voltmeter in the cigarette lighter shows 11.8v. Time for a new battery, methinks. Has anyone tried a Duracell AGM battery?
 
You may be right. The article that I read also said that the new battery would not last long if not registered with the ECU. I was repeating advice I picked up on the net, but it may have been from a battery installer with profit in mind. I personally can't see why the car would not charge a new battery until it reached its maximum accepted voltage, whether the old battery could only take 12v and the new one takes 13.2v.

After charging for half a day, my old battery shows as being fully charged and trickle charging with a NOCO AGM charger until I open the doors and bonnet, when it goes back to one red light (25% charged) and when I switch on the ignition a voltmeter in the cigarette lighter shows 11.8v. Time for a new battery, methinks. Has anyone tried a Duracell AGM battery?

Who makes batteries for the Duracell name sake ??
 
Who makes batteries for the Duracell name sake ??
According to the net, "Duracell car batteries are made by East Penn Manufacturing Co., Inc.013 in Pennsylvania, USA.3 East Penn has been producing lead-acid batteries for over 60 years and has signed an exclusive agreement with Duracell to release batteries branded under the Duracell name."
 
Just to add to the general forum knowledge about batteries.
Batteries follow ohm’s law (well they would, wouldn’t they).
So all batteries have an internal impedance/resistance. When current flows there will be a voltage drop at the terminals - ohm’s law innit.
As a battery gets older, assuming it doesn’t have a fault, that impedance goes up. So for the same current flow, the terminal voltage goes down until one morning you come to start the car, and the combination of internal impedance and current load result in insufficient battery capacity to start.
As a battery has a negative temperature coefficient, this has an effect too.
When I worked in the battery shop, on the first really cold morning of winter, my boss would come in rubbing his hands and saying “battery weather!”
He was right.
Now, here’s the rub that a lot of people don’t get.
When a battery impedance goes up, for a given charge current, the voltage will go higher than for a lower impedance. So the battery will appear to charge more quickly. Well it hasn’t. Not only has it got a lower capacity but because charge rates are governed by the battery voltage, the charge current will be lower for a (partially) discharged battery - it will take a lot longer to reach its full but limited capacity.
So when I hear someone say the battery must be good as it charges up really quickly, I’m always sceptical, and recommend a proper battery test (preferably on a fully charged battery with a load tester)
Also whatever the state of a battery, unless it has a fault - a short circuit cell is an example - the ‘fully charged’ voltage will be dictated by the charger or voltage regulator. This will usually be around 14.0-14.5.
The above is a simplification and doesn’t cover smart charging, battery faults, battery technologies, temperature etc.
hth
 
Hi , what are the Stop Start battery called EFB :- Any good ?

Enhanced Flooded Battery.
Usually put on by OEM to save money against AGM.
Good enough for stop start but not as good as AGM. 👍🏻👍🏻
 
Enhanced Flooded Battery.
Usually put on by OEM to save money against AGM.
Good enough for stop start but not as good as AGM. 👍🏻👍🏻
The Nissan and Renault forums have endless complaints from owners of these batteries failing, 2 to 3 years use seems normal for them.
 
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