A mates honda Integra
YouTube - Honda Integra Type R T USC 06 Drag Race
Not bad for front wheel drive
YouTube - Honda Integra Type R T USC 06 Drag Race
Not bad for front wheel drive
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Just noticing its faster doesn't prove anything, neither does a before/after dyno run (Although you can assess the old torque/power curve vs the new one, to see why you may feel its faster). Because all that will do is show you the maximum power the car is capable of producing, even if that max power figure is achievable for a single rpm in your rev range.
What I did with the 230K was time my runs, for example, hold it in 3rd gear and go from 10-20mph all the way to the end of the gear, which ends at around 95mph (on a runway of course!), and thats how I could tell if it made a difference, and I was lucky in my case because it actually did make a difference in conjunction with all the other mods i had on it.
It would be worth one day having your c32 on the dyno to see if the remap did anything, also I recommend a kleemann pully, you would be in the 400bhp
I think I'll disagree there with you, I think it proves that my car is now faster when I feel it go faster, more responsive etc... I do not need a stopwatch to tell me that my car is now officially faster by 0.4 of a sec...
Also getting the stopwatch out and timing the car is not always accurate, it depends on allot of things like weather conditions, fuel, tyres, tyre pressure and type of road your on, etc etc.. just because your 230k was faster that day doesn't not mean it was because of the remap, knowing it's a 230K the remap was probably a total waste of your money, If I remember rightly a member on here took his 230K to DMS and it did not do anything!
A few years ago when I had my 2001 210 55 remaped I tried to time the 0-60 and it was always showing a different figure, lowest was 4.9secs and highest being 5.3secs. but at the time I've noticed different roads = different 0-60 times.
A decent remap is not just about making the car faster from 20 to 95mph but the main thing is it should also improve the way the car drives and I doubt your stopwatch can tell you that, only you can when you drive the car and notice the difference.. I think that should prove something as well.!
In my opinion the correct way to carry out a remap is to test the car on the dyno before and then after the remap, people may think otherwise but that's fine.
Also getting the stopwatch out and timing the car is not always accurate, it depends on allot of things like weather conditions, fuel, tyres, tyre pressure and type of road your on, etc etc..
In my opinion the correct way to carry out a remap is to test the car on the dyno before and then after the remap, people may think otherwise but that's fine.
My remap was a live map and it wasn't done by DMS, DMS aren't the benchmark for all maps on mercs although they are very good in general (and expensive).
Unfortunately, the stopwatch is the only way you can tell a car is faster because speed = distance / time , I obviously did more then 1 run (5 before & after actually) and took an average and it was definitely faster.
Yes I do agree a car should drive better after a map, but I personally wouldn't fork out any money just for my car to drive better.
And to justify why I took it from 20mph - 95mph in 3rd, is because obviously at 20mph the engine will be at very low revs and it will struggle more than if you put it in 2nd gear for example, this intial struggle will give you a good indication of how it performs in the lowest part of its rev range progressing onwards to its redline (at 95mph). So while doing this, you will get a feel (and time) of how your car builds up its torque across its rev range.
Unfortunately your opinion is wrong. A stopwatch is a much better method of assessing a cars performance than an inertia dyno or even more likely your Butt Dyno..
A stopwatch on the open road isn't corrupted like the false atmosphere in a dyno room. It will pick up differences as little as running with a cold or warm air intake.
You say your car feels faster...how can you quantify that without timed runs.
A dynomometer can be made to read almost anything and guaranteed it will be made to read more just after you have spent £300 or so on a remap.
If the stopwatch can't measure a difference, there isn't one.
If you think i'm wrong then that's your opinion I personally happen to think your wrong...
My brother has a device called ScanGaugeII which gives you an estimate of the bhp and when connected on his JCW it gave more or less the same figures the dyno gave 212bhp, or did he make it say whatever he wanted?
I know there are allot of remaping companys which talk allot of bull**** and there remap does not do anything to the car etc...
I don't care what you think, a stopwatch is the best way of telling whether a mod has been successful, a RR isn't, especially on an automatic gearbox.
Why do you think racing teams use stopwatch timings for lap times after modifications?
A scangauge can only estimate on the information the ECU gives it. After a remap (especially on a diesel) the information will be incorrect, which is why the fuel consumption calculators are no longer accurate.
How can a stopwatch be wrong? Run the car and time it, modify it run the car and time it...Bingo..
It doesn't matter how much power you are showing as making, it's how much power over the range of the revs that matters.
The 212bhp your Brother's scangauge shows is irrelevant and highlights exactly what Adam has said about RR usage. You have become fixed on the headline power figure, not what it is meant to be achieving.
Maybe your Butt Dyno is also better than facts...Not.
Sounds like you're scared to get the stopwatch out having spent a load of money on a remap.
Why are you getting so irritated?, seriously take it easy you moron I do not care what you say...
Yeah I'm so scared, I havn't even re-maped my car yet. when I do i'll make sure i'll post the dyno graph on here just for you to see
off this thread now, the old tw@t is here as I know how this is going to end!!
I'm not irritated in the slightest, it's you that has resorted to foul language and name calling.
Forget the dyno chart, get the stopwatch figures, much more revealing.
chances are that if he is running more bhp, the car will be faster though ...even if it is minimal.
I am sorry but a hand timed stopwatch is not accurate at all, especially when we are going into the milliseconds.
Am I thick?
What other way is there to check that my car is faster than before the re-map, than to use a stopwatch?
I am sorry but a hand timed stopwatch is not accurate at all, especially when we are going into the milliseconds.
I understand your post but if you have to rely on milli-seconds to see that the car is quicker then the re-map hasn't made that much difference.Re-read my post... It clearly says hand timed stop watch.
Am I thick?
What other way is there to check that my car is faster than before the re-map, than to use a stopwatch?
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