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Servicing nightmare!

stereophoney

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Had my oil changed by MB a couple of weeks ago, with a plan to do the rest myself. I had this weekend off, so started off a 9am this morning. Got all the bits together - Spark plugs, air filters, fuel filter, brake fluid and tools. Engine cover and airbox came off easily. That was about as good as my day got!

Looking at the coil packs, it seemed that the drivers side had better access, so i decided to tackle the ones which looked the hardest. My spark plug boot puller tool was pointless and not suited for this engine, so out came a 17mm spanner. For some reason it was slipping, so i used a 19mm and the lead came free. Unfortunately half the spark plug was still stuck inside having snapped off! The end of the plug in the lead did not want to come out, until eventually some needle nosed pliers did the job, however the plug had to be bent back into shape.

I then set about removing the broken plug from the head. Got my spark plug socket attatched and the smallest extention i had, but it was not small enough, so i had to Halfords to buy a slim ratchet. Got it on there, and with a fair amount of resistance the plug came loose. As the space is too tight i disconnected the ratchet and the extention, however the spark plug socket wouldn't come out, no matter what i tried. I tested another socket on one of the more accessible plugs, and the same thing happened, the plug got stuck solid in the socket.

The only way to get around this was to re-attach the stuck plug and use a normal 16mm deep socket which worked fine. Removed the ratchet, went to remove the extention and now that was stuck solid, and so the plug couldn't be removed due to the tight space. Eventually i managed to prise it free, and I got the remains out of the head, and other than being snapped in half, the plug was not in bad condition.

On inspection of the leads, they were quite discoloured and look like they are original, however i noticed another issue. The plugs weren't the right ones, with a 'G' plug being where a 'K' should be. Due to this and the fact that they're a bit worn i ordered a new set. £86 from Eurocarparts (£110 normally but 25% off until tomorrow). That was the end of messing with the plugs today.

Decided to change the air filters. The airbox came apart fairly easily, and revealed a bit of a mess!

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The filters were a state and there were lots of leaves and debris which i didn't really want there! Cleaned the box with some meths and got the filters out of the box, and they were the wrong ones!

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Don't think the day could have gone much worse! Will remove the rest of the plugs, leads and coils tomorrow. If that goes as planned will tackle the cabin filter, brake fluid and fuel filter, what could go wrong?! New leads should arrive on Tuesday, so until then i'm back in the MGF!
 
Oh the joys of working on cars, always expect the unexpected.
 
Was not looking forward to starting work today due to the disaster which was yesterday. Finally got all 16 changed! Was much easier today than yesterday, and the only real mishaps were the tools and half a spark plug that are now lining my undertray!

A few things i found which may be of use to someone taking this job on.

The plier type spark plug boot remover is pointless, don't waste your money like i did, as they will not help in the slightest.

Managed to pull all the boots with 17mm spanners in various lengths. The boots have lips, and a 17mm will not fit if the lips are in the horizontal position. It is possible to twist them around. Some boots are easier to get at from the side rather than above. The proper offset spanner would have made it even easier. Did consider buying one, but a bit pointless now.

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Spezialwer..._2771_VENTILEINSTELLSCHLUESSEL_i817_20034.htm

I found it easier to use a proper spark plug socket to remove the plugs, as it will hold onto them making removal easier. That benefit is completely lost when inserting the plugs, as i found it got stuck on the plug and was impossible to remove as there was nowhere to grip. A 16mm deep socket did the trick.

It was much easier to remove all the coils and leads as they tend to get in the way of each other.

I mentioned yesterday that some leads were on the wrong plug & coil. I've changed them around to the correct position. The car starts fine and settles to idle fine. What difference would having the the leads on the wrong plug, considering the car was running pretty well, with just a slightly lumpier idle than i expected?

Here's the removed plugs. You may notice that there's half missing. It's somewhere on the undertray!

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If the leads were put onto the wrong plugs you would know. The car would be misfiring as the firing sequence would be wrong. It'll be like running with missing cylinders.
Have done it myself in the past and it is very noticeable.
 
If the leads were put onto the wrong plugs you would know. The car would be misfiring as the firing sequence would be wrong. It'll be like running with missing cylinders.
Have done it myself in the past and it is very noticeable.

This engine has two plugs per cylinder so wouldn't behave in the way you describe as I believe the op is referring to the two being transposed on the same cylinder.

I don't know how or why the system needs two or why the plugs are different. Look forward to some more knowledgable input than my own.
 
This engine has two plugs per cylinder so wouldn't behave in the way you describe as I believe the op is referring to the two being transposed on the same cylinder.

I don't know how or why the system needs two or why the plugs are different. Look forward to some more knowledgable input than my own.

To clarify, the leads were all attached to the correct cylinders. The cylinders are marked G,H,K,L and the leads have a corrosponding marks to dictate which is the correct one. I had a K lead on a G plug etc.
 
This engine has two plugs per cylinder so wouldn't behave in the way you describe as I believe the op is referring to the two being transposed on the same cylinder.

I don't know how or why the system needs two or why the plugs are different. Look forward to some more knowledgable input than my own.

The engine uses twin spark plugs to initiate twin flame fronts in the combustion chamber to help complete combustion. Think Mercedes introduced it to improve emissions. The spark plugs are all the same type afaik . If they are different on your engine they probably weren't all changed the last time!
 

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