Sheffield Specialist - Error Codes P0010 and P0020

[bigdannyk]

Hi all,

Just looking for a bit of advise and recommendation...

The engine warning light has come on my 56 Reg C180k. Not sure exactly why, the only thing I can think is that my friend who took it for a spin was using the tiptronic gearshift and dropped down from 4-3-2 too quickly. This caused the car to jolt and the engine to scream due to the increased rpm. The next time I started the car up, this light came on.

Took it for Star Diagnostic and the following error codes were displayed:

2054-001: Continuous camshaft adjustment, Incorrect position of the intake camshaft (P0010)

2054-002: Continuous camshaft adjustment, Incorrect position of the exhaust camshaft (P0020)

Having searched tirelessly on numerous forums and speaking the with the guys at the electroncis/diagnostic garage, they think its a mechanical fault related to the timing chain which may have been stretched??

Does anyone have any ideas or any further explanation?

Also, if anyone could recommend any specialists in the Sheffield area who could look at this I would be grateful.

I'm reluctant to drive the car at the minute as I don't want to cause further damage!!

Thanks!

 

[flango]

I'm in Rotherham and used to be in the Garage business, there is only one competent place in South Yorkshire and that is Europa In Sheffield centre, not cheap but good and better than dealer pricing. A bit further a field you have MB Centre Mansfield, top notch guy or SPR in Stockport who are also really good.

I can also recommend a good garage who are competent on MB but not an Indie
see this thread

http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/merc...-repair-garage-rotherham-south-yorkshire.html

Common problem on your engine I'm afraid and hopefully you have caught it before it has inflicted too much damage

 

[bigdannyk]

Flango,

Thanks for the quick reply! much appreciated. I'll try Europa and see what they say as i'm reluctant to take it too far a field and cause further damage...

Any ideas roughly on how much this sort of work might cost?

I did just find another mechanic on Broadfield Road who supposedly specializes with mercs, called BJ Mason (Think the guys called Barry), have you heard of him?

 

[flango]

Depends how much damage it has done the chain is relatively cheap but the sprockets ridiculously expensive but can be got from Germany cheaper. Check out this thread which will give you some Idea

http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/engine/175334-c-class-200k-cam-chain-gone-100-000-miles.html

Not heard of BJ Mason I'm afraid

 

[bigdannyk]

Ok,

Thanks Flango. Lets hope it's the chuffin chain then and not sprockets!!

Thanks for your insight sir, much obliged.

 

[flango]

Ok,

Thanks Flango. Lets hope it's the chuffin chain then and not sprockets!!

Thanks for your insight sir, much obliged.

You are welcome thats what this forum is all about helping each other, if you need anything else just shout

 

[amg3.6]

Did you get the fault codes cleared?

 

[bigdannyk]

Did you get the fault codes cleared?

How do you mean did I get them cleared?

 

[bigdannyk]

If you mean cleared from the system, then I'm not sure, however, the warning sign has disappeared from the dash so can only assume so?

There was a very noticeable clicking/chattering noise when I turned it on this morning. Europa are fully booked until Wednesday and want to run the diagnostic again which is another £90 on top of the £45 I paid yesterday. Apparently the place where I got the diagnostic done used a different diagnosis machine and the codes don't match up to the MB ones. Which is most annoying as I specifically asked for the Star diagnostic.

A couple of people I've spoken to in Sheffield have recommended Barry/BJ Mason (even the guy at Europa). He's apparently very good and more reasonably priced, so I'm going to drop it off to him Monday morning and leave it with him. He's fully booked until the 28th but said he will try fit it in before ...His rough estimate is around £500-600 if the timing chain and tensioner need replacing, but if the sprockets gone too then it could be more like £1500!!

What a bvgger, I was warned before I bought a Merc that if they go wrong they cost A LOT! only had it 7 months!

 

[amg3.6]

Where you got it diagnosed from did they erase fault codes on STAR? If they where cleared and the codes are keep coming up then you have a problem. Sometimes by clearing fault codes fixes the problem.

 

[bigdannyk]

They didn't tell me they erased the fault codes, however, like I said the orange engine warning light is no longer on the dashboard.

Still there is a rather concerning chattering/clicking noise coming from the engine at start up and while driving upto about 30mph.

Car only has 62k on the clock, from what i've read you would expect the cam chain to last longer??

FYI - I tried calling the garage that did the diagnosis to ask about clearing the codes but they're not open today.

 

[amg3.6]

If you want i can check if they were erased free of charge i have my own STAR.

 

[bigdannyk]

That would be great...what do you need the VIN?

As a n00b when it comes to cars...but a bit of a DIY'er...how difficult/complex is it to replace to the timing chain and tensioner manually??

 

[amg3.6]

You will need to bring your car to me so i can connect it to STAR. Are you driving your car?

 

[flango]

Let us know how you get on with BJ Mason would be good if there was someone else local who was competent. I can do most jobs myself but when it comes to the bigger stuff I just dont have the facilities and its no fun working on the drive

 

[bigdannyk]

Amg - Yeah that would be ace, car is running at the moment, would like to avoid further damage though, where are you located? I'm in Millhouses (S7) so if not too far I could pop by.

Flango - Will certainly let you know about Mason. Like I said, few people I spoke to have recommended him plus he's booked up until 28th August so he must be doing something right ha ha.

cheers

 

[bigdannyk]

oops double post

 

[amg3.6]

I live in Rotherham near Meadowhall.

 

[amg3.6]

Let me know just drop me an PM.

 

[bigdannyk]

Hi, sorry for not getting back to you yesterday, was out on my cousins stag party!

It appears the PM function is disabled on my account for some reason? not enough posts maybe.

In any case, a mate of mine has offered to take the car to his friend on Abbeydale Road, not sure who the guy is but he's apparently just set up his own garage having plied his trade in workshop for prestige cars for some years. Hopefully he'll be able to shed some light on the situation.

Will report back with findings! cheers all