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If I don't drive at night then presumably its unfair to expect me to have to have lights too? Aso why do I need windscreen wipers if I don't drive in the rain?
All this I don't drive on ice/snow excuses seems to apply to all sorts of environmental facors too. I guess that some drivers have a (ice) crystal ball and just know when there will be black ice and snow?
If I don't drive at night then presumably its unfair to expect me to have to have lights too? Aso why do I need windscreen wipers if I don't drive in the rain?
All this I don't drive on ice/snow excuses seems to apply to all sorts of environmental facors too. I guess that some drivers have a (ice) crystal ball and just know when there will be black ice and snow?
I'm willing to bet though that far more deaths / injuries result from reduction in grip in wet conditions during the rest of the year than are caused by failure to use winter tyres. Which as far as I can see mostly results in low speed bumps and inconvenience (getting stranded).Ummm... nice try but I'm not falling for that one. Summer tyres are suitable for most conditions and at present the legal tread depth for them is 1.6mm. Whilst I believe that this is too low for anything other than dry days and should be reviewed you can't penalise drivers who are following the rules.
If I don't drive at night then presumably its unfair to expect me to have to have lights too? Aso why do I need windscreen wipers if I don't drive in the rain?
All this I don't drive on ice/snow excuses seems to apply to all sorts of environmental facors too. I guess that some drivers have a (ice) crystal ball and just know when there will be black ice and snow?
I'm willing to bet though that far more deaths / injuries result from reduction in grip in wet conditions during the rest of the year than are caused by failure to use winter tyres. Which as far as I can see mostly results in low speed bumps and inconvenience (getting stranded).
So I don't personally get the sudden demands to make winter tyres mandatory, when there are other changes that would be far simpler to implement and would have much bigger benefits (e.g. make the minimum tread depth 3mm or whatever).
well , how about during the winter months (oct-march) if you have an accident and don't have winter tyres your excess quadruples and the fault automatically lies with the party without the correct equiptment for the weather conditions where there is any doubt. If you fit winter rubber then it stays the same and the fault is 50/50 like normal.
Contrary to all the hype and misleading advertising winter tyres only provide an advantage on slush and snow where their tread is designed in such a way to stop the snow 'sticking' to the tyres effectively turning them into slicks. They provide no advantage at all on ice or densely packed snow and often perform much worse than all round tyres on purely wet surfaces - especially braking distances. Keeping this in mind the complete unpredictability of our weather plus the liklihood or not of snow, more often not, it would be lunacy to make them compulsory. The legislation if sensible would have to define snow or if lazy and simply time based could force you to drive a potentially more dangerous vehicle.
In Germany where they have just this year been made a legal requirement the police this week announced their intentions to enforce the law - they'll do absolutely nothing special. They've even today branded the law as unenforceable.
In this country, such a requirement would cause more accidents and simply give insurance companies yet another get out of jail free card while costing the already criminally taxed, over legislated motorist even more.
More accidents? Absolutely. Firstly through worse performance of the tyres on non sleet/snow surfaces and secondly because of the false sense of security they'd give to bad drivers.
All in, it's a very, very bad idea.
Regards,
Contrary to all the hype and misleading advertising winter tyres only provide an advantage on slush and snow where their tread is designed in such a way to stop the snow 'sticking' to the tyres effectively turning them into slicks. They provide no advantage at all on ice or densely packed snow and often perform much worse than all round tyres on purely wet surfaces - especially braking distances.
I think winter tyres should be mandatory between certain months of the year. I'm fed up of the whole country coming to a grinding halt and everyone winging about it. It works in other countries so there is no reason at all why it shouldn't work here.
Do something about it once and for all......
The German option seems to be rather more sensible. Cause a traffic hold up or accident because your car has inappropriate tyres you get points and a fine. That seems rather fairer to those who don't want or need to drive in adverse weather conditions.
I think winter tyres should be mandatory between certain months of the year. I'm fed up of the whole country coming to a grinding halt and everyone winging about it. It works in other countries so there is no reason at all why it shouldn't work here.
Do something about it once and for all......
Do you get winter tyres for arctics?
The key is not the tyres, but the care of the end user. The driver.
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