Special fluids for 190E 2.5-16?

[zakh]

Hi guys,

Is it true that the 190E 2.5-16 requires special fluids in terms of:

- Brake fluid
- SLS fluid
- Auto transmission fluid
- Power steering fluid

I read somewhere that you cannot use standard stuff...someone please enlighten me and kindly post the correct types of fluids to use! Many thanks...


Zak

 

[grober]

My guess is that the standard MB recommended fluids for all 190's are fine. Depends on how the car is used- Road or Track. A good synthetic engine oil would obviously be a good idea. The only exception is the rear limited slip differential which uses oil specifically for LSD's rather than standard hypoid oil.

 

[zakh]

thanks grober, as always very helpful...


Zak

 

[neilrr]

grober,

Are you sure about that or just guessing?

Those bits are expensive to repair/replace.

 

[Ian B Walker]

Listen to grober, he's right

 

[grober]

grober,

Are you sure about that or just guessing?

Those bits are expensive to repair/replace.

Thats what the car will have started out with. HOWEVER because its a performance car there is a possibility that previous owners may have uprated any of the fluids particularly the brake fluid. Obviously not a good idea to mix different types of fluid together so unless the previous owner has passed on a detailed service history it would pay to proceed with caution. The limited slip diffs even changed from a plain mechanical multiclutch LSD on the early models to a full blown electronic ASD system on the 2.5-16v models. I also failed to mention that the 2.5-16v 5 speed manual box actually uses autotransmission fluid to sheet 236.2 as gearbox oil ( just like my old ford capri) but didnt think it was relevant to Zakh's 4 speed automatic query. To be 100% certain it would obviously be best to contact the local MB agent who should be able to supply the exact fluid specs for the car.
edit:- Neilrr , I have just noticed you have a 87 2.3-16v what do you use?

 

[neilrr]

edit:- Neilrr , I have just noticed you have a 87 2.3-16v what do you use?

I haven't done a thing to the car yet so I'm not sure what's in it or what I'll put in it when it goes for service etc. Had it 2 months and hardly driven it as I'm tidying up the little cosmetic flaws it has picked up over 20 years.

The independent MB guy I have used for years races a 2.5-16 so I trust him to know what's best.

The reason I asked if you were sure is because at the back of my mind I remember a discussion about using different fluids (from standard W201s), but can't recall the specifics.

I'll put a post on 190Rev's 16 valve forum (where the die hard Cosworth boys live) & see what they say.

 

[grober]

nice one!

Nice one.
will be interesting to see what they say!

 

[neilrr]

The 190revolution comments so far:-

http://www.190revolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26583&highlight=

 

[cra_arc]

just get it completly fluid changed.. i.e the whole lot to merc specs and you will be fine..

drain everythig and start a fresh you got a reference point for all fluids then ..

thats what i do with all my new stuff .... down to draining the brake fluid etc..

 

[219]

The recognised experts on these cars are Paul & Stefano Mazzoni of Merparts in Port Glasgow . They are always happy to give advice over the phone.

The number is 01475 741236

 

[oilman]

I would not call them particularly special, they all carry specific MB oil codes but most of these are readil available in several brands

MERCEDES-BENZ 1988-92 P 190E 2.5-16 (M102) (201 Series)

Engine EO MBZ 229.1 10W-40 5 litres
Manual Transmission ATF MBZ 236.2/6 1. 6 litres
Automatic Transmission ATF MBZ 236.6/7 6 litres
Differential LS MBZ 235.3 1.1 litres
Coolant AF MBZ 325.0 8 litres
Power Steering ATF MBZ 236.3 - litres
You'll find all the oils to meet these specs from the German Lubricants Company Fuchs.

here: http://www.opieoils.co.uk/performance_lubricants/fuchs.aspx

Cheers
Simon