Suitable car required for dragging a horse box (plus horse!)

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  1. DSM10000

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    Madam is now extending her outings on Finn (Or Big Bu**er as Woodythewise so rightly calls him:D) to local jump events. It has also been mentioned that attending events further afield is also on the agenda and therefore the 1964 LR S2 is no longer a suitable vehicle, not that it ever really was :(

    If I am going to have to drag over 500Kg of glue on legs around plus horse trailer, kit etc then I want something capable, reliable and comfortable.

    Heated leather seats, automatic transmission and a diesel engine are the must haves so I am thinking Long wheel base Shogun as friends have one and it has been a very good car. I am probably not going to look at LR products as I dislike the Discovery whenever I have driven one (admittedly a 2004 model) and find them ponderous old buses, Range Rovers are lovely but this needs something a little more utilitarian.

    Land Cruisers have been discounted as "too big and ugly"

    Input from anyone else that has to perform these duties would be welcome:thumb:
     
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    Land Cruiser the supreme tug boat.........big and ugly though ;)
     
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    OK seriously.........Toyota Pick-up.......Nissan Pick-up........Mitsubishi Pick-up

    My daughter has had all of these on the farm at various stages, and all were dependable and tough, and surprisingly usable for everyday shopping.....no door dings to worry about.
     
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    My friend Gavin (a veteran car dealer) uses a big petrol V8 Jeep Grand Cherokee for hauling cars and trailer around. Cheap as chips as everyone wants a noisy smelly thing and fully loaded as the less than top drawer trade might say.
     
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    The shogun is capable and well spec'ed but unless they have improved the cab insulation or the engine noise it does invade the cabin and is v harsh. I would go for a v8 jeep unless you need to do many miles.
     
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    How about one of these?
     
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    What's the budget?
     
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    Done some serious towing with hilux/navara.For something a bit more refined Volvo xc90/v70 all wheel drice.
     
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    Another vote for the Land cruiser, as stated they don't break easily,

    OK not pulling in the same weight class, but we did have fun sandboarding in the Algerian dessert when I worked for Total:crazy:

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    The W163 ML270cdi is a great work horse for towing.
    Tows better than most other vehicles it's size due to distance between the tow ball and the rear axle.

    I've towed at it's limit of 3500kg and it always felt solid but I could have done with a little more power up some of the longer inclines. If you're looking at a Shogun though you'll be even worse off on the power/torque front.
     
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    I also had a 4.7 V8 for a while. Was good but just too juicy. ML can average 30mpg even when pulling some weight. The Grand Cherokee would do half that and overdrive couldn't be used with any significant weight on it.
     
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    I think they mostly have MTW of 2.5 - 3T dependant on age and engine. The 4cyl L'c is 3t limit as well I believe.

    Budget tow- older Discovery, Mid- LR Def 110 or Shogun, High- Toyota L'c V8. All have 3.5T tow limit. My thinking on towing is always have more capability than needed.
     
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    A solution might be to render said quadruped first - I suspect the glue in final form would be well under 100kg so eminently suitable for the boot of the MX5 (think of it as rear end stabiliser - a sort of tail Finn as it were).

    Would certainly beat driving along at 30mph in a noisy old diesel thingy with your Missus.
     
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    The best towcar I ever had was a W124 300TE, and that includes comparing to a Land Rover Discovery and 2x Shoguns. Unless you go for a big engine (the proper 4x4s both had 2.5 litre turbodiesels, which is 'small') then performance is going to be poor especially during towing. And if the engine is big, then fuel economy will be very poor, due to the vehicle's weight. So a lighter vehicle eg normal 2WD estate car instead of a 4x4 with a chassis - is better for occasional towing. If its muddy grass, or slopes, or proper off roading, then obviously the 4x4 is going to be able to cross fields etc but on tarmac the normal estate wins.
     
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    The Series LR will go, it has only covered 550 miles in the last 3 years and a friend has always wanted it and has offered a decent price.
     
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    Charles. That is a classic, thank you for that, I had to wipe away a tear of laughter!.

    I have shown the above to ma'am, I am sure you are familiar with the "humph" and the disdainful look only our fairer sex seem able to manage?:D
     
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    Friends have the 3 litre 4 cylinder Shogun, it is certainly not quiet but seemed quite subdued at 60mph on good tarmac, they tow a large caravan and have not found it lacking in power or torque so far.

    Pick up has been ruled out!
     
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    Was it a D3 Discovery you tried?

    Because that would probably fit the bill and the D3 onwards are completely different beasts to the earlier incarnations.
     
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    Lee.

    I have just checked with my friend who owned it, no it was a late Series 2 and it was awful. Lots of faults, suspension failures, electrical problems, leaks, vey poor acceleration and road manners from memory.
     

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