Thai cave rescue

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  1. anglaslt

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    The BBC is reporting that all twelve boys and their teacher are now safely out. What a wonderful international effort and result. I'm amazed at the resilience of those young kids who looked so cheerful throughout their ordeal. It says something about the way they are brought up.

    Great news!
     
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    They were given meds to help them through ,probably why there are big smiles instead of exhaustion. In any case this is proud moment for Thailand and a much needed one considering their political strife.
     
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    Hi,
    Great outcome (apart from the poor rescue diver who ran out of air and died).
    Once the dust settles - the rescuers will be rightfully awarded bravery medals for their dedication and amazing work over the past few weeks - including a large British contingent.
    Hollywood will come knocking for film rights.
    The coach will be facing some difficult questions as to why he took the team into a dangerous cave complex during the monsoon season.
    Cheers
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    I feel they may leave him entirely alone for fear of suicide. I think he knows he f'd up and really doesn't need the inquisition.

    Be good to see the British & US Navy team up with these guys for exercises in the region. Bring the Filipinos, Malaysians and Singaporeans along too for that matter.
     
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    On a general note... and before condemning the coach.... H&S in some parts of the world isn't the same as in the UK.

    If going into these caves was something that was often done, especially if the rain on that day was unexpected, then it would be difficult to accuse the coach of any wrong-doing.

    We obviously don't know the full circumstances and no doubt an inquiry will follow, but just to say that we shouldn't make assumption while looking at this through our Western eyes. The coach's actions should be viewed as reasonable or unreasonable based on what is common and acceptable in his own society.
     
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    If anyone's a bit vague about what's happened visually, this is a pretty great and overview of their predicament with decent graphics.

     
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    It would be an interesting society that thought this to be common and acceptable. Personal responsibility for dependents safety is key here.

    For instance I love rock climbing & surfing; and both are all over NZL's culture but nobody in their right mind could ever say this is common or acceptable in any way what so ever, irrespective of the culture

    Topec takes full responsibility for disaster

    Do you see how in the first world personal responsibility is king, or at least it used to be. In the third world it isn't - it is always somebody elses fault.

    Leaving these things to the vagaries of culture is like supporting the Aztecs for murdering their population and saying it is culturally acceptable to do so.

    Go easy on the poor guy who obviously made a mistake. In fact make him the expert on how to survive with 10 plus children in a tricky situation. Get him to write a book on how he did it and so on to prevent him from doing what so many do in a situation like this.
     
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    Or see post #2461:

    What is wrong with this picture?

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    Note the ashtrays on the coffee shop tables...

    I spend a few weeks every year in Italy, and in the south smoking in petrol station is quite common. Even the attendants who fill you car will smoke.. OK, they don't actually smoke while holding the pump nozzle, take a break and sit down, but they are just yards away from the pump. And That's OK in the south of Italy.
     
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    H & S and Thailand are a real oxymoron. Have you seen their driving!

    Great result to have all rescued. Left to their own devices, the Thais would have messed it up.
     
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    Yes it is great that they are all safe, tragedy that a Thai seal team member died in rescue though.

    We are so used to seeing heroic missions by SAS, SBS, Seals etc being achieved successfully that when this happens despite all the training and money for equipment they are given is is especially sad.
     
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    Amazing. I thought they were all going to perish.

    For a taste of what these cave diver nut jobs get up to, watch this.

    Check out "Diving Into the Unknown" on Netflix
    www.netflix.com/title/80167626?source=android

    Fascinating and terrifying all at once. I l literally cannot think of a more unnatural and frightening way to spend my leisure time.
     
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    Fab news for all involved. Great to have a happy ending to an awful situation.

    Thoughts with the divers family. I’m sure they’ll be very proud of his efforts.
     
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    Hope the UK honours system recognises the UK specialists that were involved - and that the Thai system also recognises all those involved. In UK it will make a pleasant change from "mates rewards" every time!!

    What a result, and full credit to all involved. A week or more back who would have believed we would be rejoicing over this fabulous outcome, just a real shame that 1 Thai Navy Seal should have lost his life in this fantastic rescue. Hope the Thai authorities recognise his sacrifice and look after his family.
     
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    The lesson for the day is...

    ...if it starts bucketting down cats and dogs, don't go taking shelter in a cave system.

    One thing this incident demonstrates, and that is it required international cooperation, bringing in the best skills from around the world. There is no such thing as insular anymore. As a species, we all need to help each other, and when we do we can accomplish amazing things.
     
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    Just to add to the H&S in other parts of the world... you may have read recently about the Air China flight that plunged 10,000 feet because one of the pilots was vapping, then resumed cruising altitude ans decided to continue flying with no emergency oxygen supply left... ahmmm.
     

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