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The third link to the Canada Free Press is nothing but a load of ill-informed, ultra-right, neocon tosh and is fortunately not representative of the Canadian people or their government.

We just have to agree on this one, Scott_F... 'Canada Free Press'? Sounds more like a bored blogger to me... :D
 
Also... Canada is not actually part of the US....
 
Any nation that allows its govt to spend up to a billion dollars a day on wars without protests or marches but comes out on to the streets to protests about spending on healthcare is not a nation I can take seriously any more.
 
Any nation that allows its govt to spend up to a billion dollars a day on wars without protests or marches but comes out on to the streets to protests about spending on healthcare is not a nation I can take seriously any more.


Just a note.... nations were you can actually march in protest are far and few between... this for me gives any such nation a moral advantage over those nations where protesters are shot or imprisoned.

EDIT - My opinion above is not specific to the US, by the way...
 
Across the Pond's Reaction to the Olympic Games Opening Event & the large references to the NHS

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/olympic-....lized-medicine/

The London Olympics – celebrating socialism, shopping and sentimental societal justice

They certainly don't like our NHS

Quote: ''NHS provides 90% of abortions in this country. We are all forced through our tax money to pay for this whether our conscience allows it or not''


Was this the reason the Olympic's sponsors negotiated a waiver from paying tax on the games derived profits - so that they could have a spotless conscious not having contributed a penny toward any abortions? Or was it just plain old corporate greed?

Coca Cola and McDonalds being aware of the PR sensitivities have waived their waiver, but no others as far as I know.

And there was me thinking that sport was the very totem of fairness...
 
...And there was me thinking that sport was the very totem of fairness...

Incidentally, this was apparently a condition set out by International Olympic Committee prior to the bid. Fair or not, it was not the UK government's decision. Of course, we could have refused to bid altogether... but that's a different story.
 
the pressure group 38 degrees have lobbied all of the companies to waive the tax breaks, i think 50%-60% of the companies waived this IIRC
 
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they've made more progress since i last checked.
 
Any nation that allows its govt to spend up to a billion dollars a day on wars without protests or marches but comes out on to the streets to protests about spending on healthcare is not a nation I can take seriously any more.

I was in Washington a while back and there were protesters there.

Nothing like the Vietnam era though. But then the Viet Cong didn't make the mistake of attacking New York and Washington using airliners.
 
They certainly don't like our NHS

This ceremony was not about fact but a good wallow in the great socialist ideals of modern Britain epitomized in the National Health Service. With a work force of over 1.5 million – almost the number in the Chinese Red Army, it is the one thing Britons cling to as a source of great pride in a country in serious decline. Last night 600 NHS staff pranced and danced around sweet little beds filled with sweet little kids representing the Great Ormond Street Hospital. Earlier in the week the Daily Mail ran a special investigation into the story of a 22-year-old that died of thirst after a routine hip operation in a top NHS teaching hospital. Kane Gorny in desperation dialed 999, while a policeman watched him ask staff for water. He had a form of diabetes that hampered his body’s ability to retain fluid, yet the response was to sedate him without intravenous fluids. The investigation revealed hundreds more are dying of thirst by nurses who consider themselves above the ordinary needs of patients. This kind of insane abuse is reported on almost a weekly basis, yet the population coos and develops brain fog when presented with a sentimental ode to an idea of social justice rather than the hard reality that nothing from centralized planning ever works.

They *have* to pretend the NHS does not work to avoid looking at the numerous failings and the vast cost of their system.

It always irritates Americans when they discover that Cuba has far better medical care than them.
 
...It always irritates Americans when they discover that Cuba has far better medical care than them.

I think this has been discussed before...

Access to medical care may be easier in Cuba than in the US, but most of the treatments and drugs they offer would not have existed if it wasn't for the US, UK, and EU (and to some extent also Japan, Australia/NZ). Or the Capitalist West, in short.

What you'll find behind almost every modern medical treatment is that it was made possible due to the combined force of academic excellence and commercial might, not due to communism....

For me, this is not a theoretical argument either - my life was saved a couple of years ago thanks to drugs invented at Cambridge Pathology department and produced by Pharmaceutical giant Roche. If I had to rely on the medical inventions and discoveries made by Fidel Castro, I would not have been here today.
 
...They *have* to pretend the NHS does not work to avoid looking at the numerous failings and the vast cost of their system...

I am aware that you disagree, but as I suggested in earlier post, those Americans that object to NHS-style medicare do so because they believe in extreme personal freedoms. We don't, and that's fine.
 
I think this has been discussed before...

Access to medical care may be easier in Cuba than in the US, but most of the treatments and drugs they offer would not have existed if it wasn't for the US, UK, and EU (and to some extent also Japan, Australia/NZ). Or the Capitalist West, in short.

What you'll find behind almost every modern medical treatment is that it was made possible due to the combined force of academic excellence and commercial might, not due to communism....

BBC NEWS | Business | Cuba sells its medical expertise

"The export of pharmaceutical products, vaccines and biotechnology helps to pay for the growing costs of funding medical research and a free health system with comprehensive coverage."

"In the 1980s millions of dollars were invested by the Cuban government in developing modern vaccines laboratories and a massive centre for biotechnology."

"Since the end of Soviet aid in 1989, and the acute economic crisis of the 1990s, Cuba has seen the excellence of its medico-scientific institutions as a strategic resource for developing new medical products for export."

"The country's first breakthrough in medical research was its discovery and patenting of meningitis-B vaccine in late 1980s."

"It has been successfully exported to cope with epidemics in South American countries including Brazil and Argentina."

"The vaccine has now been licensed to GlaxoSmithKline who will now market it in Europe and it is hoped eventually in the USA."

Turns out they're not the helpless idiots you thought they were....
 
I am aware that you disagree, but as I suggested in earlier post, those Americans that object to NHS-style medicare do so because they believe in extreme personal freedoms. We don't, and that's fine.

We can use our world leading NHS, or go private, freedm of choice does not get much better than that.
 
I think you'll find that it is still a drop in the ocean compared to the vast advances made in all areas of medicine in the West during that time.
 

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