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The V8 is coming back!

ToeKnee

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I bet MB lately realized their 4 bangers turned into a major flop?
Founders of AMG, after the sale of their company now feels like they are w@nkers why they sold their baby to MB?
AMG is no longer what it used to be.
 
'making it possible to package the new engine into cars not originally engineered for a V8, including the C-Class......'

This made me smile , like this is something new , I have a C class on my drive with a V8 motor squeezed into it that was never meant to fit .

It's 19 years old , thankfully back then MB had a few CLK wings and bonnets laying around and the capacity to make a saddle sump :banana:.

Oh , and while I am at it I may as well repeat my thoughts on the 'C63' bit . As happy as I am that someone has seen sense and got shot of the four pot in favour of a V8 , it's still (in my eyes ) not a C63.

But thats just my opinion , I do not work in a marketing department at MB.
 
I almost feel sorry for the few that DID buy the 4 pot one......no one wants them now.....even less will want them second hand when the new 8 pot arrives....depreciation will be savage!

Pity about the flat plain crank on the new one....I want a V8 to sound like a V8 with that offbeat burble ....a flat plain one sounds like what it is....two straight 4s side by side.
 
Surprised this took so long to reach the forum. Flat plane crank for packaging reasons it seems - and a 'noise generator' to emulate a crossplane V8. Odd.
 
Flat plane crank for packaging reasons it seems
Traditionally, a flat plane V8 had the advantage over the cross-plane design of a much simplified exhaust manifold which was important for normally aspirated engines but I'm not sure that's the case with turbos?
 
Traditionally, a flat plane V8 had the advantage over the cross-plane design of a much simplified exhaust manifold which was important for normally aspirated engines but I'm not sure that's the case with turbos?
In this instance it appears to be a tighter crankcase that was sought. Presumably enabled by reduced or eliminated entirely crank counterweights.

From Autocar:

''This layout, first adopted by AMG on the GT Black Series’ M178 LS2 engine in 2021, also enables a more compact crankcase design, allowing AMG to package the new engine into models that weren't originally engineered for a V8, such as the fifth-generation C-Class. ''
 
Apparently not. It's going to be a six cylinder for the C-Class as there's no room for a V8.

Presumably all the hybrid "stuff" takes up a lot of space, given MB managed to squeeze a V8 into the 204 platform which was a smaller car all round than the 206 version.
 
I think if they make the car a C53 with a straight 6, that will be a weapon. Ive been watching a lot of E53 videos on YouTube and they're great sounding cars, you can rev the engine and enjoy the experience. I could live with a 53 as it sounds mucho awesome. As a 63 model with 63 pricing I think it's looking to me like it's going to fail again.

Re the V8, as a flat plane engine, if they can get this one to rev out higher than the 177 7.2k or so red line, that could potentially aural bliss, if they can make it sound like the V12 S class from the 90s
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then oh boy !
 

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