The Value Of Used Cars.

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The other thing that puts people off big-engined cars is the £445/£460pa VED charge.

The extra tax each year is a big psychological disincentive and the gap between band L & M and smaller-engined versions of the same car is only likely to grow larger.
 
The other thing that puts people off big-engined cars is the £445/£460pa VED charge.

The extra tax each year is a big psychological disincentive and the gap between band L & M and smaller-engined versions of the same car is only likely to grow larger.

There's a lot to be said for that^.

When I was looking to buy a Discovery TDV6, I was finding that the 54-55 plates were commanding the same prices because there is a £200 a year RFL difference from March 23rd 2006 iirc.
 
Correct everybody at work think I am mad having a 5.5 V8, but when my daily commute is only 7 miles each way I don't mind the 20mpg figures.

Similarly... except I do 19 miles each way.

Those same people are happy to spend £2500 smoking/drinking but are shocked I might spend that in fuel...
 
Never purchased a car on hp - Paid £51k kept for four months - sold on for a profit.

Was that a car you bought new or secondhand?
 
The other thing that puts people off big-engined cars is the £445/£460pa VED charge.

The extra tax each year is a big psychological disincentive and the gap between band L & M and smaller-engined versions of the same car is only likely to grow larger.

Definitely. People are able to quantify the VED in a way that they don't with depreciation and fuel costs. Probably in part because it's one big visible non-negotable lump to be coughed up each year whereas they can spread insurance payments and car payments.
 
I think the VED point is very valid.

My partner walked away from a nice Saab convertible when the salesman told her about the Road Tax.

She bought an SLK 200K
 
There's a lot to be said for that^.

When I was looking to buy a Discovery TDV6, I was finding that the 54-55 plates were commanding the same prices as the 06/56 because there is a £200 a year RFL difference from March 23rd 2006 iirc.
Just clarified my own post^ :rolleyes:
 
i've just been forced to let go the highest spec 4.2 v8 diesel Q7 of its era in the country for £23,300 despite (stupidly) rejecting a part-ex valuation of £26k in March. No interest in the car at all even when very keenly priced for sale. Market has collapsed imho - anyone with liquidity will have a very nice car very very cheaply.
Meanwhile, I am back in an A Class.
 
Slightly off line but just to quote an example of value against new. I recently bought a CL600 v12 2001 in showroom condition Had it well checked out by an independant Merc specialist who could find no faults. Drives like a dream , thirsty as hell but who cares, looks a million ££ . This car cost new nearly £100mand cost me £7k to buy. 2nd hand ford money?? There is merit in looking at prestige vehicles with history at decent prices.
 
I think you will find all sectors of the market are struggling at present. I put my 06 Skoda Octavia 1.9tdi through the auction four times a short while ago. 117k , full main dealer history , virtually unmarked , went for just over £2k.Six months ago would have been around £2800.
As far as personal vehicles go , I never worry too much about mpg , as bigger engined motors are less stressed , and more fun to drive. If I could afford to spend 51k on a car ( like The Don ) , I certainly would not worry about mpg or depreciation . ( maybe worry about finding a horses head at the foot of my bed instead! 0:doh:
 
i run a retail business and have noticed 'middle england' are not spending much but the rich are out in force with wads of cash. Guess with inflation running at 8% in real world middle england are squeezed and the rich as spending as the money in the bank is being erroded.
 
i've just been forced to let go the highest spec 4.2 v8 diesel Q7 of its era in the country for £23,300 despite (stupidly) rejecting a part-ex valuation of £26k in March. No interest in the car at all even when very keenly priced for sale. Market has collapsed imho - anyone with liquidity will have a very nice car very very cheaply.
Meanwhile, I am back in an A Class.

Our MD has a 58 plate. Lovely piece of kit. It certainly didn't start at anything remotely like a 2 when new!

I see the massive largest engined Q7 (V12 or V10 oiler) is £100k. Ouch!

Btw, did you once frequent BM3W?

I think you will find all sectors of the market are struggling at present. I put my 06 Skoda Octavia 1.9tdi through the auction four times a short while ago. 117k , full main dealer history , virtually unmarked , went for just over £2k.Six months ago would have been around £2800.

Now that really surprises me given my 2004/04 Saab 9-5 Aero HOT (92000) went for £2k which was probably £500 > £750 less than what it was really worth.

I'd have bet every time on your Skoda going for more.
 
The trend that I am seeing (in cars that I am interested in and hence look at/own/intend to buy) are:
LS430's - prices have flattened out and they are selling quickly, especially at main dealers
W220's - dropping fast
C215's - like their sedan brother, the prices are dropping quickly. MB sold one within a few days week before last for £8500 or something and it was a 2003/04 model
Anything equipped with ABC (CL600, S600) seems to be hanging around for ages which is not surprising given the gobsmacking repair costs of that infernal system
W140's - stablising and selling quicker. This will probably be followed by a rise in prices.
R230's - heading south quickly to be not far off good examples of the R129
 
A trader friend was offered a C63 last week - an 09, I think - which he reckoned would retail at £40995. He offered £30k for it

Cars like that are depreciating a couple of grand a month so you can't risk getting caught with one

Nick Froome
the independent Mercedes Estate specialists
 
When you say that it would retail at £40k, do you mean that he would have then put it up for sale at that price?
 
Car prices are all over the place - the old saying only worth what someone wants to pay for it.

In the current climate it's probably best keeping the devil you know..
 
This forum has a fairly diverse mix of owners , but all love cars. Has the current economic climate forced/altered your plans to change/keep your present vehicle(s) , and will your next car be a step up or down?
 
I'll be keeping mine as it's paid for, goes like a rocket, and uses not too much fuel. Also trade in price is sh1te. :D
 
I'll be keeping mine as it's paid for, goes like a rocket, and uses not too much fuel. Also trade in price is sh1te. :D

I think I'll keep mine for now as it owes me nothing, is nearly as good as new ones on fuel and a lot more reliable, goes OK-ish, and is worth bugger all.

Seems a shame to lose another £30k for a fancy.
 

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