tonights top gear

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by W210 Fan, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. W210 Fan

    W210 Fan Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    1,434
    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2005
    Location:
    Godalming
    Car:
    W140 S500L W208 430
    that was actually a decent review of a small affordable car - the Fiesta, the blues brothers bit in the shopping centre was a bit over the top, I also love the squaddies sense of humour who said `are we there yet?` when they left the landing craft

    I missed the first 15 minutes arguing with my missus so I will have to get that later,

    I also enjoyed the vulgar fraction who was to the right of Boris,
     
  2. Dieselman

    Dieselman Banned

    Messages:
    34,206
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2003
    Car:
    Peugeot 403 Convertible
    And did you notice Boris say cars would have to go electric.... I wonder what measures he will bring in to 'encourage' that to happen.

    The first bendy busses will leave London's streets in 2010.....

    ....is that when the lease expires..??;)
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2008
  3. MBManInKen

    MBManInKen Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    3,375
    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2007
    Location:
    London
    Car:
    Mercedes S500 LWB (V220)
    ...and let's hope he'll turn the bus lanes in s-class only lanes then :D.
     
  4. Mudster

    Mudster Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    2,509
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2006
    Location:
    Surrey
    Car:
    2008 A150 SE Classic, 2007 Saab 9-3 Sportwagon
    I like Boris, He is a character and He has Character which is refreshing in any politician.

    Makes the rest of them look like they've been to smarmy politician school.
     
  5. andy_k

    andy_k MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    5,204
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2003
    Location:
    Bexhill, East sussex
    Car:
    Alfa GTV 3.0
    fixed that for you :D
     
  6. jeremytaylor

    jeremytaylor Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    2,414
    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2005
    Location:
    Surrey Hills
    Car:
    E280CDI Sport Est., CLK 200k Cab., VW T5 174, Citroen C8, and a 2CV!
    No doubt the Morris Marina fan club will be moaning about JC trashing a 'perfectly good' "classic" Marina (not that such a thing ever actually existed!)
     
  7. Dryce

    Dryce MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    6,699
    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Car:
    ..
    I don't recall which model he had - but I'm guessing - not anywhere that near the bottom and not one quite like the vast majority that will be sold.

    And the same goes for journo reviews in general.

    The thing that rankles with me is that the Focus and Fiesta are liked by journos. So why is it that the ordinary ones that I have ever driven are nowhere near as good as the alleged reputation?

    Well part of that may be down to my personal subjectivity.

    But. And I think the nub of the matter is that Journos live in a cloud cuckoo land.

    In the land where I live most people won't pay say 11K for a new Fiesta. They'll put that sort of money into a discounted or prereg low to middle end small family car. But in journo land they tell us 11K is a good price for a small hatch.

    And when it comes to saying car A is better than car B amongst real cars then they are comparing upper range higher powered models. Not the mundane models that most of us actually buy.

    Once a product has had a couple of reviews by established journos then the reputation sticks. Thereafter journos basically just reiterate 'the view' in their own version.

    I think what particularly rankles is that the previous model Fiesta/Focus were particularly well regarded by journos. I never rated the handling of the ordinary Focus as anything special compared with its competition (at least the ones I have tried) and I particularly loathed the Fiesta as one of the few small cars I just couldn't live with.
     
  8. andy_k

    andy_k MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    5,204
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2003
    Location:
    Bexhill, East sussex
    Car:
    Alfa GTV 3.0
    they started whilst the show was still on :)

    http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=274616
     
    Last edited: Dec 7, 2008
  9. Dryce

    Dryce MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    6,699
    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Car:
    ..
    'Cos Boris is a journo himself.

    One of the problems we have with our current crop of politicians is that they pretty well started out as politicians. I suspect this is one of the reasons that Gordon and Alistair can get excited about a 2.5% VAT cut while everybody else is so underwhelmed. Their point of reference as to what counts and what doesn't is so far removed from the public that there is no empathy in either direction.
     
  10. andy_k

    andy_k MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    5,204
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2003
    Location:
    Bexhill, East sussex
    Car:
    Alfa GTV 3.0
    no it wasn't, it was Clarkson taking the P*** out of all the people who say that Top Gear doesn't do car reviews of small affordable cars any more

    every time he mentioned one of the lower spec models he said they were all s**t - comedy yes, car review nah
     
  11. Dryce

    Dryce MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    6,699
    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Car:
    ..
    Well I wasn't happy about it either.

    There can't be that many Marinas left running. And much as they malign these vehicles they still represent some sort of heritage.
     
  12. andy_k

    andy_k MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    5,204
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2003
    Location:
    Bexhill, East sussex
    Car:
    Alfa GTV 3.0
    Marina Heritage??????

    That's got to be one of the funniest things I've read on here anywhere

    They were a crap joke when they were made. Terrible build quality, cheap nasty interiors, lousy handling, ugly, unreliable pieces of automotive crap turned out by a so called motor industry who's workers spent more time outside the factories than inside them.

    Truly a dreadful car in every possible sense of the word
     
  13. SEM

    SEM Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    1,001
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2004
    Location:
    Tamworth, Staffs
    Car:
    2007 C220 CDi SPORT & E350 Coupe Sport
    thought top gear was a little duller than usual, up until last 10mins when i laughed my **** off... Is it Green, yes VERY...!
     
  14. SEM

    SEM Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    1,001
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2004
    Location:
    Tamworth, Staffs
    Car:
    2007 C220 CDi SPORT & E350 Coupe Sport
    I'm ashamed they came from my home town... Gaydon today was an eye opener to some the Worst.... sadly few best cars around
     
  15. nick mercedes

    nick mercedes MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    7,107
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2003
    Location:
    far far away
    Car:
    Ford Expedition
    Clarkson seems to delight in destroying cars at our expense.

    Why did they have to set fire to a classic car for a cheap laugh?
     
  16. Dryce

    Dryce MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    6,699
    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Car:
    ..
    Sadly I was being very serious.

    The very fact that these cars are so maligned means there is almost no interest in preserving them. And regardless of what your opinion is about them (and my recollection is that they were simply totally underwhelmingly disappointingly boring) there should be some examples kept for posterity.
     
  17. nick mercedes

    nick mercedes MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    7,107
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2003
    Location:
    far far away
    Car:
    Ford Expedition
    But why do the BBC like to smash things up just for a laugh?
     
  18. Sp!ke

    Sp!ke Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    12,234
    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2002
    Location:
    West London
    Car:
    SL500 & The Fart Car
    Very good TV as usual.

    Do you think this place/sign really exists? :D
     

    Attached Files:

  19. Dryce

    Dryce MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    6,699
    Joined:
    May 17, 2006
    Car:
    ..
    Yes. It's in Wiltshire.
     
  20. andy_k

    andy_k MB Club Veteran

    Messages:
    5,204
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2003
    Location:
    Bexhill, East sussex
    Car:
    Alfa GTV 3.0
    because it was cheap and it wasn't a classic?

    They sell for peanuts on eBay, £500 buys a runner with MoT & tax

    Maybe it was a half decent looking but knackered MoT failure which like most Marinas was doing it's best to fall apart faster than anyone could bolt the bits back on in which case it's £50 worth in the local classifieds

    I thought that Top Gear made the BBC a profit through selling it worldwide so it doesn't really "cost" us anything.
     
Tags:

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.