Trumps Beginning of the end

[MangoMan]

If you consider people who break and bend the law at will with zero morales and use propaganda to brainwash millions of people for their own personal gain then yes he is realistic.

If you are referring to him being like any other Joe then if that was the case the human race would be extinct already.

You should consider becoming a Comedian - or a politician. They are both laughable...lol.

 

[MangoMan]

My post a few above did not judge anybody's previous Post or viewpoint, I stated my own personal feelings.

But of course straight my opinion was immediately criticized and ridiculed..... A typical Leftist/Liberal do-gooder response to seeing or hearing anything they do not agree with - a bit like little Hitlers but with no army!

 

[pembssurf]

My post a few above did not judge anybody's previous Post or viewpoint, I stated my own personal feelings.

But of course straight my opinion was immediately criticized and ridiculed..... A typical Leftist/Liberal do-gooder response to seeing or hearing anything they do not agree with - a bit like little Hitlers but with no army!

So what exactly is wrong with leftist “do-gooders”??

This should be interesting....

Obviously you as we all are, are entitled to opinions. I am merely interested in what is wrong with being a leftist as opposed to right centre right. I’m not sure why we can’t all just be human beings!

 

[Scott_F]

Personally the best Statesman by far these days is Putin - now there's a Leader!

Putin is certainly a leader but he's definitely no statesman.

 

[Deleted96908]

Putin is certainly a leader but he's definitely no statesman.

I'd say no leader and increasingly like the fat controller.

 

[Scott_F]

I'd say no leader and increasingly like the fat controller.

Well there's no doubt that he's in charge in Russia.

And in the Crimea.

And in Syria......

 

[tangey]

The one thing I found refreshing was the complete lack of a filter between brain and mouth. Ask a normal politician a question and you will get a carefully filtered reply, at worst a lie and at best an answer to a question you didn't even ask.

Trump just streams whatever's in his head at the time.

Which is not the process that any world leader should be using when making decisions.

 

[Deleted96908]

Well there's no doubt that he's in charge in Russia.

And in the Crimea.

And in Syria......

Yeah, I wouldn't fancy my chances in a round of poker.

Just wondering when he's going to get chance to spend his billions. Or is the taste of undisputed power payment enough.

 

[pembssurf]

I tasted undisputed power once and I’ve been wanting to get my job back as a parking enforcement officer ever since!

 

[grober]

The one thing I found refreshing was the complete lack of a filter between brain and mouth. Ask a normal politician a question and you will get a carefully filtered reply, at worst a lie and at best an answer to a question you didn't even ask. Trump just streams whatever's in his head at the time.

The problem with Trump's statements is that experience since he's been in office has taught people that he is liable to say the exact opposite the next day so any statement is essentially meaningless.

 

[GeeJayW]

The problem with Trump's statements is that experience since he's been in office has taught people that he is liable to say the exact opposite the next day so any statement is essentially meaningless.

In that he had misspoken the previous day.... I would really hate trying to work with Trump, it would be a nightmare trying to understand where anything was going.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

In that he had misspoken the previous day.... I would really hate trying to work with Trump, it would be a nightmare trying to understand where anything was going.

For some insight into working for the guy have a look at the book Trumped! by John O'Donnell, the author seems genuine enough and it was written many years ago about Trump's foray into the casino business.

The book describes some of Trump's antics at that time which are alarming on a small stage, he now has the big stage at his feet and appears to have changed very little over the years.

 

[AltonAnt]

He is obviously rattled now

"I don't know how you can impeach somebody who's done a great job," Mr Trump told Fox and Friends.

"I tell you what, if I ever got impeached, I think the market would crash, I think everybody would be very poor."

 

[markjay]

In the (unlikely) even that Trump does get impeached, those who advocate it might find that they got more than they bargained for.

This has the potential of causing a major rift in America, with the 'hic' small-minded bigoted sub-culture that was never legitimised, and where his core supporters come from, feeling that the Democrats stole their president from them and condemned them back to the shadows of US culture.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

The million people to whom you refer were in the UK and they don't have a say in US politics !
/QUOTE]

The "Million marches" in February 2003 involved six hundred cities around the World, and anywhere between 6-15 million people, millions of whom were American voters. Bush was an intensely unpopular President, as was Clinton and Reagan before him.

worldwidehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_protests[

CNN.com - Cities jammed in worldwide protest of war in Iraq - Feb. 16, 2003

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

His economic and financial policies have benefitted some (mainly big business and the better off) but I doubt that even the most ardent and most stupid Trump supporter would say that he has created an economic boom. I have yet to hear anyone bestow that level of credit upon him since there are many other economic factors at play.

I suggest you talk to some Americans. America is sitting on the cusp of the longest bull run in history, with a wide range of ordinary people reaping the benefits in employment (with unemployment at 3.9% an 18 year low - and within sight of getting back to a 60 year low), pensions growth, investment growth, and general prosperity.

Going back to my original comment, James Carvill got Bill Clinton elected and re-elected on one very simple slogan. Americans don't care about the "noise" in Washington, they care about personal prosperity, and their perception is that Trump is delivering on the Economy.

As I said, I don't like the man, who is the product of a poor Republican candidate selection process, which trumped an even poorer decision to run with the unpopular wife of a seriously disgraced ex-President. The issue is that he has delivered on the Economy and there's not a single candidate out there who looks able to challenge his economic record and win in 2020.

(Personally, my preferred candidate would be Elizabeth Warren, but I'd be amazed if she actually ran, let alone ran and won)

 

[Scott_F]

I suggest you talk to some Americans. America is sitting on the cusp of the longest bull run in history, with a wide range of ordinary people reaping the benefits in employment (with unemployment at 3.9% an 18 year low - and within sight of getting back to a 60 year low), pensions growth, investment growth, and general prosperity.

Going back to my original comment, James Carvill got Bill Clinton elected and re-elected on one very simple slogan. Americans don't care about the "noise" in Washington, they care about personal prosperity, and their perception is that Trump is delivering on the Economy

"Delivering on the economy" is very different to your earlier assertion that "he has created an economic boom". Did Gordon Brown "create an economic boom" between 1997 and 2007 ??

America is not "sitting on the cusp of the longest bull run in history" and even if it were you couldn't attribute it entirely to Trump since he only took office in January of last year. It is also important to remember that markets, and economies in general, are cyclical and that every bull is followed by an inevitable bear so short-term booms are not such a great thing.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

"Delivering on the economy" is very different to your earlier assertion that "he has created an economic boom". Did Gordon Brown "create an economic boom" between 1997 and 2007 ??

America is not "sitting on the cusp of the longest bull run in history" and even if it were you couldn't attribute it entirely to Trump since he only took office in January of last year. It is also important to remember that markets, and economies in general, are cyclical and that every bull is followed by an inevitable bear so short-term booms are not such a great thing.

Trump needs to promise an end to boom and bust, that would go down well.

 

[Deleted96908]

It is also important to remember that markets, and economies in general, are cyclical and that every bull is followed by an inevitable bear so short-term booms are not such a great thing.

I think you make a very good point. With Trump's history of corporate bankruptcies and phoenix refinancing, one wanders whether voters have considered the likelihood of similar happening again on their watch.

 

[Yugguy]

We might not attribute it to Trump, but the average working American does.