TYRES.....Owner experience mileage Impressed or not? model/engine of car.

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Mickw212

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E class 250CDI W212/E46 330Ci Cab
As title ,
We all have questions, should i should`nt i buy these tyres. I may have missed it on here but just thought it would help all of us if our findings go in one thread!?

My Goodyear assymetric 5`s Rears have just worn down to 2mm so ive replaced them. Fonts ,fitted at the same time still have a good 5mm+ on them.
2012 E250CDI SALOON
Miles covered on tyres- 25,000
Grip DRY-Very Good
Grip WET- Very Good
NOISE- Minimal
Would i buy again-YES
I`ve replaced them with Michelin Crossclimate+. Only reason for brand change is Goodyear did`nt do a Vector Fourseasons in my tyre size.(or so i was informed)
Reason for buying ALL Season tyre.. In the snow the E class was useless so im hoping these help next time it snow`s.

You get the idea. Hope the above helps some one:thumb:
 
I have read through the recent posts on tyres and potential for replacing my Continental contact 2 's .

At times they seem a bit noisy at recommended pressure on my Ml 350. I have read a few recommendations which people have made especially about being a bit quieter than Conti's.

I have 265x45x20 on and have about 3mm on them and the have lasted 20k mainly around town driving. Needless to say they are not cheap but I dont mind paying for a good tyre that is going to stop me when I need to stop .

I am thinking of Good Year Efficient grip 2 or the Good Year Assymmetric depending if my size available.

Recently I have read that quite a few people run higher than recommended tyre pressure whats you view on this as I always worked on reccomended pressure for wear, noise and safety.

Any help appreciated

Gh3382
Agreed it does Rory, but as above the questions still get asked of fellow owners on here(& many other sites). Mileage may be of use to some? Just an idea. Only started it as i was looking for owner experience with Crossclimate`s :) I know they are good from reviews & hopefully i`ll still get 20k plus out of them.
 
I always think it’s difficult recommending tyres unless you have had the car long enough to try different ones on a car.

Most of my cars have been new to nearly new recently, my current car is a 2021 GLC that had only done 2300 miles when picked up, it’s fitted with Michelin Pilot Sport SUV tyres on 20 inch wheels and they seem pretty good but I would need to try other makes on the same car to comment and that’s unlikely.

I had an S212 E350 fitted with Pirelli PZero tyres and I liked them but many people don’t.

Tyre reviews are probably best with AutoExpress doing some good ones.

Robin
 
I always think it’s difficult recommending tyres unless you have had the car long enough to try different ones on a car.

.................. and they seem pretty good but I would need to try other makes on the same car to comment and that’s unlikely.

I had an S212 E350 fitted with Pirelli PZero tyres and I liked them but many people don’t.

Tyre reviews are probably best with AutoExpress doing some good ones.

Robin
I agree. For 99% of drivers it is a very subjective assessment and will usually carry a bias related to their reason for purchasing a particular tyre (post-purchase rationalization).

When I read people describing how much better the grip and cornering performance of brand A is vs brand B, I wonder how they canme to that assessment.
 
Hi , I gave up with Continental 5p tyres because of tyre cracking issues on three sets.The tyre performance themselves are excellent but quality control I feel is lacking.

Trying Goodyear F1 Assy 5s this time but so far so good.

Initial comments : Far less body roll and greater feel through the steering.Would have tried the Assy 6 but not available in my size on the rear.

If I achieve 15000 miles per set I would be overjoyed.
 
When I read people describing how much better the grip and cornering performance of brand A is vs brand B, I wonder how they canme to that assessment.
In day to day driving any of the main brand tyre will be perfectly adequate. That said my CLS55 came with Pirelli tyres, with decent tread depth but on ascending a damp hill into Stow-on-the-Wold the car was very skittish, the traction light flashing furiously. When it came to replacing the rears I went for Michelin (I have had on my previous cars) and the same road in similar conditions was totally uneventful.
So, from my experience, I would always recommend Michelin over Pirelli :dk:
 
In day to day driving any of the main brand tyre will be perfectly adequate. That said my CLS55 came with Pirelli tyres, with decent tread depth but on ascending a damp hill into Stow-on-the-Wold the car was very skittish, the traction light flashing furiously. When it came to replacing the rears I went for Michelin (I have had on my previous cars) and the same road in similar conditions was totally uneventful.
So, from my experience, I would always recommend Michelin over Pirelli :dk:
Never used Pirelli`s on my cars so far. The only top brand name tyre which i could`nt get along with at all was RFlat Bridgestone`s on my BMW E46 330Ci. Even with 5mm left on them within a month i changed to Continental which transformed the ride & confidence. Did`nt have the cracking issue though. They did 25,000+ on that car. Continental snow tyres are marvelous too.
My 250CDI came fitted with HiFLY ? junk(Dealer fitted them just to get it through MOT for a guess or previous owner for same reason?) which were bloomin dangerous! So i fitted Goodyear Assy 5`s to it & very pleased with ride & thought 25k out the rears to be pretty good? I thought if an E class owner was about to change tyres the info from mine would help out!?

As above comment, Michelin/ Goodyear/Continental are all a pretty safe bet but then Michelin over Pirelli comment may save someone getting it wrong next time. The difference in price per corner can be as little as £20 but its a big outlay overall & if you get it wrong your rather peee`d off!
All the best everyone:thumb:
 
In day to day driving any of the main brand tyre will be perfectly adequate. That said my CLS55 came with Pirelli tyres, with decent tread depth but on ascending a damp hill into Stow-on-the-Wold the car was very skittish, the traction light flashing furiously. When it came to replacing the rears I went for Michelin (I have had on my previous cars) and the same road in similar conditions was totally uneventful.
So, from my experience, I would always recommend Michelin over Pirelli :dk:
I would say that you would have had to have had identical conditions, temperatures, water, when it had last rained, tyre wear , pressures, tyre age, how full your tank was, weight in the boot etc etc to say that one was better than the other.

Some tyres excel with wet grip but are not as good in other areas (e.g. wear). Michelins are very popular and I agree that any good tyre will be more than adequate for most drivers.

I had Pirellis - 2 sets (assymentric) on my R172 SLK 350 which was a daily driver for 4 years and I have them on my SL which have done ~18,000 miles now and never had an issue in either car. I drive/drove both cars hard and have had both on racing circuits.

I’m not saying I’m a particular fan of Pirelli, just that my experience driving on them in “spirited” cars for ~10 years had not left me with any negative experiences.

I’m actually due for a new set of rears on the SL & it will probably come down to what is available rather than what I’d prefer. 285/30/19 is not a very common size and IIRC Michelin & Goodyear don’t make them in that size but I can safely go up to 295s.
 
Rory, if it's any, use I have goodyear assy 5's in 285x30x19 on mine so they do make them in that size.
 
I gave up spending money on tyres .Never went cheap and purchased the best i could find .But after 3 years on a set of Avon and the MOT guy said cracks in the tread that was is .Now i have gone budget , I can have a set every 2 years of Landsail .,,well good enough to sit on my drive , and to visit a few shows . Google them and see .DSC06517.JPG
 
I've used Landsail for quite a while on my insignia taxi, I think it's quite a good tyre.
 
I agree. For 99% of drivers it is a very subjective assessment and will usually carry a bias related to their reason for purchasing a particular tyre (post-purchase rationalization).

When I read people describing how much better the grip and cornering performance of brand A is vs brand B, I wonder how they came to that assessment.
Absolutely. The other thing that makes me smile is when people say how much better the wet/dry grip, noise level handling are on there new brand X tyres compared to the old Brand Y ones. What? .....your brand new tyres with all the tread, no UV hardening etc are better than the five year old, rock hard ones with 1.6 mm of tread left. You don't say!! Tyres go off very slowly over years so you don't notice it happening and you forget what they felt like when new. I daresay that if they had just fitting another set of Brand Y they would have felt just as good to 99 percent of drivers.
Most drivers just do not push there tyres hard enough on a dry road to notice the difference. That's why the magazine tyres tests are done on a track......its the only place they can drive the car hard enough to separate the difference of the tyres. Noise level easier to determine of course but many tyres get louder as they age. In the wet its bit different. I bet many could tell the difference on stopping distance with a set of Michelin MP4S (or other premium brand) compared to our friends Landsails above!.....or any other of the "Diyoung Ditchfinder" type brands of Chinese tyres!
And then of course we have the "paying for the name" issue. I would think any tyre maker into motor sport sponsorship will be charging extra to cover that rather than their tyres being measurably better than the competition. My tyre choice is varied and depends on the car. Id be fitting "better" tyres to an E63 than I feel the need to fit to my ALFA 159....which is why its currently fitted with a set of midrange Nexen NFera SU1. After about 20000 miles they will need to be replaced before the next MOT......but I can still push then hard enough to howl without fully letting go....I wont go harder on the road....and they are starting to get a bit louder...especially on concrete roads....but I would definitely recommend them on low to medium power cars.

Just my 2 pence worth.
 
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Most drivers just do not push there tyres hard enough on a dry road to notice the difference. ..........
And then of course we have the "paying for the name" issue. I would think any tyre maker into motor sport sponsorship will be charging extra to cover that rather than their tyres being measurably better than the competition. My tyre choice is varied and depends on the car. Id be fitting "better" tyres to an E63 than I feel the need to fit to my ALFA 159...............

Just my 2 pence worth.
Deffo a case of fit for purpose and driving style. I do drive my cars quite hard and will stick to the same standard of tyre that the car came with from the factory. I don’t need to have the most expensive but I’ll never skimp on tyre quality and buy cheap tyres.
 
Hi , I put a set of Land Sail tyres on a Chevi I had ( Korean) and I found they where good value for money.

Cannot remember how many miles they did no issues !
 
I put Landsail on my 330d Touring as i was going to sell it & the whole car was worth the price of a cup of coffee with rust everywhere & 275,000miles😀. £200 for 4 instead of my usual continental £480 bill.

TBH yeah going to the shops they were fine. In the wet the Traction control light flickered A LOT. But still not unreasonable to live with.
Only time they scared me was everyday on the motorway (i did 1k a week) in winter. The car would slide quite easily even under normal driving at speed limits let alone if pushed. My missis hated them👎 around wet islands & she does`nt drive hard either. Aquaplaning was scary too on the rivers that form on the M40/M5 areas. The way they were wearing(i do my pressures every week) i dont think i`d have got above 8,000 out the rears but im guessing there. In the end after a few"moments" i put my winter(continental) tyres back on & normal service resumed.
Would i buy them again...NO WAY!

But thats my opinion.
 
..........as i was going to sell it & the whole car was worth the price of a cup of coffee with rust everywhere & 275,000miles😀
LOL....love it!
 
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I like a good looking tyre hence i have Pilot Sport 5's.

Dont want some Chinese branding with massive font
 

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