dulayj
Active Member
If you think the current banking woes are a problem wait until the big US health companies infiltrate our NHS(well whats left of it)!!!
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I never mentioned culture or religion. Just the principle of one belief. And that is not to profit from money ie speculate on house prices, buying bonds and even on the trading of Gold and oil. Because lets face it, how much longer can capitalism / debt go on for. Something has to give.
Otherwise we'll end up with some fictional 'credit' system and one central bank we all work for. (who owns the bank ??? )
why has no one mentioned just how much the USA are in debt?
One might also ask - given the shenanigans in the US at the moment as to why the big ratings agencies haven't downgraded US gov debt right now - as opposed to people speculating that they might lose their AAA in 7 days time.
Where do you draw the line? Sovereign debt, mortgages, personal loans, credit card debt? Any savings can be considered a loan to a bank? So wipe out savings. Wipe out pension funds?
If creditors don't trust debtors then they stop supplying credit.
Would you put your savings into NS&I certificates if you thought UK gov was about to write off all debt including those certs?
It used to be within the Christian believes that no-one should lend money for profit. Hence the growth of the money lenders within the Jewish faith and the growth of Merchant Banks owned by Jewish families.
Also while over time the Jewish peoples have been persecuted by many. Nothing maybe to do with religion but maybe more to do with the fact they were owed monies and the debtors didn't want to repay.
One might also ask - given the shenanigans in the US at the moment as to why the big ratings agencies haven't downgraded US gov debt right now - as opposed to people speculating that they might lose their AAA in 7 days time.
from memory so dont sue me if im wrong ...
after WW1 the german people were skint
people in the uk are only just managing to get by as the price of mortgages (death-grip) has dropped so much that people can still eat
I think you need to look at the war reparations which are blamed for putting Germany into economic ruin after WW1.
The Jewish community became an easy target to blame for loads of things. The Nazis deliberately and systematically scapegoated and dehumanised them.
(The treatment of Germany by US, UK, and France post WW2 was a lot better than it might otherwise have been because of what happened post WW1.)
jewish people have had a harsh and unfair time of it for many years in many countries but yet have never done much other than work hard and get blamed for everything, strange
So in your world no one would build houses, no one would build hosptitals, universities or anything else, because without investment and reward no one will take the risk
If you don't wish to promote "capitalism" or whatever label you wish to give it what do you want? It all sounds a bit wishy washy to me.
The only countries I can think of who have adopted this anti capitalism all folded up with an array of problems ranging from rampant corruption at the top to wide spread ciminality and dissatisfaction from "the people" about poor living standards and lack of personal freedom and expression.
Personally I think those protesting about having to pay something not even close to the market value to gain a p155 poor nothing degree from often second rate institutions are pretty stupid, what they should be doing is seeking gainful employment rather than avoiding the real world at our expense.
Role on the revolution, where we get rid of central control, cut taxes and public spending and expect those who can to support themselves.
Went to the Jewish museum in Berlin. Yes it is very fascinating. I was slightly amazed at how little there was about the holocaust.As a mediaeval historian by degree, the embrace of usury by the Christian west is one of the most interesting and certainly relevant issues in the economic development of the west.
Jews generally ended up as moneylenders as they were not allowed to own land and their involvement in certain trades that supplied the money they could lend. Pogroms may have had their roots in the usual resentment of moneylenders and opportunism (if you killed them, repayment became optional) but also good old fashioned outbreaks at the time of crusades etc.
The Liebeskind Museum of German Jewish life in Berlin is well worth a visit, the history of that sad community being a clear one of vile discrimination and brutalisation for a long time.
Went to the Jewish museum in Berlin. Yes it is very fascinating. I was slightly amazed at how little there was about the holocaust.
A friend of mines son went to see the war graves and sights of the holocaust. Not sure which bit now exactly but he was shocked to see a plaque, and I'm sorry for not remembering what it was exactly, perhaps someone knows, but something like 'In honour of the people of the EU that fought against fascisim '
Who knows, perhaps in a few centuries it will all be forgotten. (Or the British will take the blame again)
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