W202 C220D Does a broken pump mean its a write off?

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  1. F0ul_Oli

    F0ul_Oli New Member

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    A few weeks ago, my 1997 W202 C220D didn't start. It was still warm from doing a 45 mile motorway trip, so I realised it was possibly a fuel pump problem.

    Having had a quick look at the fuel filter, it didn't look like any fuel was getting to it, so I resigned myself to having to taking it to the local garage. I towed it there, and park it, explaining to the mechanic what I had done.

    3 weeks later, I am still car less and the garage are no closer to fixing it. They have had a quick look at it and think the fault is the shut off value. The problem is that in my model of C220D, its a part of the pump, and so I will need a new pump. The garage are reluctant to put it on the ramp to take the pump off and sent off to the refurbishing company because that would mean a ramp out of action (its too heavy to roll off?)

    Anyway, having phoned the refurbishing company they were planing to use, they suggest that the pump is not a good one to fix. Replacement is a better deal - although they realise that at £2k, its not economic!

    So, this is where the question comes in - what is the best thing to do?

    I'm just outside Chester. Is there a diesel specialist I should take it to for a second opinion? Is it possible to bypass this shutoff value with a part from an older car?
    So many questions!

    Anyone with an easy answer? ;)
     
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    Yep, one of THOSE !!!
    Try looking at ECP - Bosch fuel pumps are sub £500.

    I doubt the car is too heavy to roll - my S500LWB was simply rolled back the other day to line it up on ramps. One person.

    I suspect your garage is out of it's depth.

    You really need a Merc Indy.
     
  3. Adam230K

    Adam230K Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    I think your garage is out of its depth aswell and I'd suggest going to an Indy. I'd also suggest trying to source a second hand part from a breakers yard if the ECP part is too expensive.
     
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    I was suspecting as much - just didn't want to admit it! ;)

    However, as I understand it, this car doesn't have a Bosch pump - I think its a Lucas one.

    Does that make it a different matter?
     
  5. Rory

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    I've never used them myself as my car has been on a service contract until recently, but you could try having a word with Autobarn (Andy) - he is well recomended on older MBs.

    Apparently he's generally pretty busy but if you leave a message he should call you back.

    Autobarn, Quaint Farm, Welsh Road Ledsham CH66 9PA 0151 347 9999.
     
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    markheaney2 Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    broken pump

    i used to taxi exactly the same car as this the fuel shut offs are small plungers in the back of the pump the pump is made by lucas you can replace the plungers without taking the pump off
     
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    It's a Delphi rotary pump, it's done well to last this long, they were pretty usless when the cars were new.

    The garage is correct, they are big money and hard to refurb, I'd consider selling the car as it is and finding a C220cdi or a C250 to replace it with.
     
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    I suggest you contact this guy. www.veggiediesel.co.uk If anyone knows there's is a cheap fix /alternative pump for you he probably does!
     
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    this is the news I wanted! :)

    can you tell me what the plungers are called or point me at a how to somewhere?

    Having spoken to my local specialist, MB Motors, they would replace the pump regardless which is not going to be cheap!
     
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    this is the news I wanted! :)

    can you tell me what the plungers are called or point me at a how to somewhere?

    Having spoken to my local specialist, MB Motors, they would replace the pump regardless which is not going to be cheap!
     
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