w205 c63 - 8700 miles service A1

[Matthewek]

Hello, I will have to have an A1 service for my w205 C63 AMG (sedan, 2017) with 8700 miles currently.

Here's my quote:



I don't mind doing what's required, just wanted to ask if that's what's required for this particular car at this age and millage, thank you.

 

[Petrol Pete]

To me - someone who runs an ancient V8 AMG - those prices are extortionate , but expected. the car is low mileage and fairly new so keeping a full MB service record is still important.

£45 per spark plug ? they are not that difficult to change ! is the engine oil and filter change not due ?

 

[Matthewek]

The price above (£1276.67) includes oil change, parts labour including VAT.

 

[Teego]

So that's £408.71 for the A service which is just oil, filter and basic inspection. Pricey but expected.
I'd query the need for plugs at that mileage / age, but MB do schedule them at 30000 miles or 3 years IIRC.

 

[BlackC55]

Id use an independent

When we are back to work we will be able to help with this.

 

[wongl]

MB Service Plan?

 

[magpiemalemerc]

I expect that price is because you have the C63 more zooom zoom engine... my c220 is around £500 but i have a plan 4 services

 

[Jobsworth]

To me - someone who runs an ancient V8 AMG - those prices are extortionate , but expected. the car is low mileage and fairly new so keeping a full MB service record is still important.

£45 per spark plug ? they are not that difficult to change ! is the engine oil and filter change not due ?

To be fair the spark plugs are a bit of work to replace on this engine.

 

[Will]

Hello, I will have to have an A1 service for my w205 C63 AMG (sedan, 2017) with 8700 miles currently.

Here's my quote:

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I don't mind doing what's required, just wanted to ask if that's what's required for this particular car at this age and millage, thank you.

Hi Matthew,

Have you heard about the Mercedes service care plans?

You pay a fixed price for the services and can have a plan to cover 2, 3 or 4 years/services.

On your C63 I think it would only cost you £46/month (or £552 per service) which means a 2 year plan (£1104) would cover your upcoming service and the following year’s one for less than your quote above.

https://tools.mercedes-benz.co.uk/c...17FE52A6475D0A490D4C%40AdobeOrg|TS=1585773263

When you consider the cost of ATF and plugs etc it makes them very good value

 

[markjay]

I don't know the car's service history, and I don't doubt MB when they say that your vehicle is due a Service A, air filter, spark plugs, and transmission service, BUT just to say that this isn't service 'A1'.

A1 is in fact Service A (engine oil and filter, plus basic inspection), and Brake Fluid change.

So if the instrument cluster says that Service A1 is due, but in fact the service due is different (more like Service AG, less the brake fluid change), then I would check the car's service history to see why there's a discrepancy between what the instrument cluster is showing and what the car actually needs.

 

[Petrol Pete]

To be fair the spark plugs are a bit of work to replace on this engine.

Not half as difficult as doing it on an M113 engine, there are 16 of them. A lot is made of servicing V8 AMG's but basic serving is not any much more difficult than on any other MB engine , or any other car for that matter. In fact due to the oil filter housing being on top of the engine they are actually easier to service than most.

The only 'problem' on the C class AMG is space in the engine bay and of course it takes longer (but is no more of a challenge) to replace stuff because there is more of it, from more oil, 2 x air filters or 8/16 spark plugs. 8 x coil packs

If my AMG engine did not have a saddle sump and I could use my vacuum unit to remove the oil an oil change would be quicker and easier than on my 2006 Toyota Yaris, I have to get under that little sod to get to the oil filter, not so on my V8.

So when it boils down to it basic service work on AMG V8 engines is no more difficult to do skills wise than any other ICE engine , just more time consuming than some.

Do I have to remove one engine mounting to replace the Serpentine auxiliary belt on my V8 AMG ? No , just a spanner levering the tensioner and whip it off with the other hand.

Do I have to remove the main engine hanger mount to do the same job on my piddly little Toyota Yaris ?.....yes.

Having said that, you do of course need to get it done by a trustworthy garage, and for that privilege you will be charged accordingly.

 

[Jobsworth]

Not half as difficult as doing it on an M113 engine, there are 16 of them. A lot is made of servicing V8 AMG's but basic serving is not any much more difficult than on any other MB engine , or any other car for that matter. In fact due to the oil filter housing being on top of the engine they are actually easier to service than most.

The only 'problem' on the C class AMG is space in the engine bay and of course it takes longer (but is no more of a challenge) to replace stuff because there is more of it, from more oil, 2 x air filters or 8/16 spark plugs. 8 x coil packs

If my AMG engine did not have a saddle sump and I could use my vacuum unit to remove the oil an oil change would be quicker and easier than on my 2006 Toyota Yaris, I have to get under that little sod to get to the oil filter, not so on my V8.

So when it boils down to it basic service work on AMG V8 engines is no more difficult to do skills wise than any other ICE engine , just more time consuming than some.

Do I have to remove one engine mounting to replace the Serpentine auxiliary belt on my V8 AMG ? No , just a spanner levering the tensioner and whip it off with the other hand.

Do I have to remove the main engine hanger mount to do the same job on my piddly little Toyota Yaris ?.....yes.

Oreally? I've done a few of both in my time. You have to remove some bits of the high pressure fuel system to do the spark plugs on the hot vee. It's a bigger job.

If you really want a tricky one the serpentine belts on the AMG GT are a fiddly thing for a service item too!

 

[Petrol Pete]

Oreally? I've done a few of both in my time. You have to remove some bits of the high pressure fuel system to do the spark plugs on the hot vee. It's a bigger job.

If you really want a tricky one the serpentine belts on the AMG GT are a fiddly thing for a service item too!

Yes , really. None of these jobs are that difficult. It's just that some like to see AMG engines as some kind of mythical creatures built by untouchable gods, they are not. Serpentine belt on an AMG GT fiddly ? OK so its fiddly, but how often is it required to be changed ? All I am saying is nothing AMG has done is not done elsewhere so they are no more a mystery than any other similar engine. Putting a plaque on the engine with the name of the bloke who bolted it together ..Chevrolet (and others) have been doing that for a while as well. Nothing massively wrong with AMG engines, just they are not as special as everyone makes out.

 

[Jobsworth]

Yes , really. None of these jobs are that difficult. It's just that some like to see AMG engines as some kind of mythical creatures built by untouchable gods, they are not. Serpentine belt on an AMG GT fiddly ? OK so its fiddly, but how often is it required to be changed ? All I am saying is nothing AMG has done is not done elsewhere so they are no more a mystery than any other similar engine. Putting a plaque on the engine with the name of the bloke who bolted it together ..Chevrolet (and others) have been doing that for a while as well. Nothing massively wrong with AMG engines, just they are not as special as everyone makes out.

I agree with you there. For clarity you stated it was “half as difficult as the same job on an m113”. It isn’t. It’s more difficult. That was the point I was making. An engine is an engine. It isn’t rocket science, as you say. Familiarity with the machine is always key. If you are messing with something you don’t really understand though, you run the risk of fooking it up. Worth remembering that.

 

[Petrol Pete]

Agreed, I was thinking of changing the spark plugs on SWMBO crappy Zafira, my garage owning mate advised me to leave them alone unless there is a problem because removing (and damaging) the one piece coil pack that had lain undisturbed for years from the top of the engine could cause more expense than the job was worth.

As you say Not rocket science, but don't fook with it unnecessarily.

 

[Jobsworth]

The plugs need to be indexed on the m177 too. It isn’t a vauxhall

 

[Petrol Pete]

The plugs need to be indexed on the m177 too. It isn’t a vauxhall

Indexing plugs on a daily drive road car is pointless.

 

[Jobsworth]

Indexing plugs on a daily drive road car is pointless.

https://mbworld.org/forums/attachme...ode-p0306-226-278-157-spark-plug-indexing.pdf

 

[Jobsworth]

I agree with you there. For clarity you stated it was “half as difficult as the same job on an m113”. It isn’t. It’s more difficult. That was the point I was making. An engine is an engine. It isn’t rocket science, as you say. Familiarity with the machine is always key. If you are messing with something you don’t really understand though, you run the risk of fooking it up. Worth remembering that.