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W210 E230 avantgarde - replacing stock suspension

MSinghMerc

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Dear Colleagues

happy new year

my car is bouncy, when I push down on the rear boot lid and front bonnet, it has done 105k.

currency stock suspension - it is avantgarde

what does this group advise to change on all four corners?
 
At that mileage and age , "4 shocks and 4 springs , it'll drive like new.

Avantguard had the lower and softer suspension set up. Maybe go for standard ??
 
At that mileage and age , "4 shocks and 4 springs , it'll drive like new.

Avantguard had the lower and softer suspension set up. Maybe go for standard ??
My B Class has Avantguard suspension. It’s lower but certainly not softer than standard.
 
Avantgarde suspension is lower and firmer than standard as far as I know ( was on my E class ) just get straight replacements for the shock absorbers and springs . Try ringing MB Newcastle parts department ( eBay shop ) with your Vin No , they should then be able to supply you with the correct colour coded springs and shockers, usually at a very reasonable price , then the ride height will be correct .
 
thank you everyone,
i do plan on replacing my alloys later in the year, do you suggest I go for the coil overs now? and if so, what shall I go for?
 
thank you Colinallcars - i have been quoted £1,225.68 Inc VAT for 4x springs + 4x struts with new rubber inserts

what do you think?

would you not suggest getting these from elsewhere like HK or bilstien?

and the coil overs to really adjust ride height?
 
No. It has sports suspension, when you look up the springs in the parts catalogue they are described as avantguard. A carry over from the old designations perhaps?
Mmmm . I fitted avantguard front legs with springs to replace the sports suspension on my w211 e320 . I found them to be lower and softer than the sports set up, I'd of thought standard would be a better compromise. ?? Nevermind eh its no biggy. 👍
 
Recently done the whole lot on my S203 C55 AMG . My advice ? Trust what you actually currently see on the car , not what you see on a website . Do not use your reg number to search , use VIN. The coil springs can be particularly tricky you might find a number of different p/n for the same car .

Look at your springs and hope to see colour codes , the rubber seat the rear springs sit in come in 4 thicknesses (for my car) and will change the ride height , hopefully you can get under the car , the number is moulded into the rubber . Failing that the number of burls moulded into the rubber also indicate its thickness.

Can you se where this is going ? It's not massively complicated but unless you know what you have in there already you could make (small) unintended changes . I was fortunate enough to still be able to see the colour codes and most of the AMG p/n on my old front springs that were made by Eibach.

Eibach in the UK steered me to Eibach Germany...who would not sell to me and pointed me to Mercedes Benz who ,after a while, managed to find two front springs....in Germany.


Shock absorbers are another kettle of fish. If I type in my reg I can buy a new rear shock that will fit for £30 or one ten times that amount. It depends on what you want to do with the car going forward. Here are a few pics . None pertaining to your car , just general advice.

I went for MB supplied Eibach front springs , basically the only ones I could trust were correct after much research , Sachs rear springs of the same length, wire diameter , coil diameter and number of coils. , rubber 'donuts' from MB (very cheap, and correct thickness) and Koni (made in the Netherlands) gas shocks as they suited my needs and came in at a decent price from AutoDoc .

I took ride height measurements before and after ended up spot on . Do your research and you will get what you need.

PS . AMG specific can often be different from other cars .

rear shock.jpg IMG_6680.jpg AMG struts in box.jpg AMG front spring.jpg

bump stops.jpg
 
thank you Colinallcars - i have been quoted £1,225.68 Inc VAT for 4x springs + 4x struts with new rubber inserts

what do you think?

would you not suggest getting these from elsewhere like HK or bilstien?

and the coil overs to really adjust ride height?
I’m the wrong person to ask about coil overs, I tend to stick as close as possible to what was on the car originally, helps to avoid issues with other components such as drop links. I recently changed all four springs and dampers on our SLK using Eibach OEM equivalents from Autodoc. Just under £150 for four springs and about £350 for the dampers.
 
thank you Colinallcars - i have been quoted £1,225.68 Inc VAT for 4x springs + 4x struts with new rubber inserts

what do you think?

would you not suggest getting these from elsewhere like HK or bilstien?

and the coil overs to really adjust ride height?
Price it from AUTODOC , I did my E class recently , new shocks,new springs . I used Sachs because that is what was fitted . I very much doubt it came to above £400 all in for parts .
Wait for the AUTODOC 40-41% discount days which is pretty much their maximum.
 
Dear Everyone,

You all have given my your advise and really appreciate this, I have now had a look at autodoc and can see many shock and springs for my Avantgarde
I have 17" original alloys right now and would like to go for 18" later in summer, that's why I am trying to ensure that I spend once.

I have just spoken to Loughton mercs and the cost is the same as I got from mercs @ newcastle, I was asked about the colour band and how many, but have been suggested to look at bilstein?

this is really confusing and very costly?

will a standard replacements allow me to put 18" on without any issues?

is there anyone here living in Essex or eats London, that I could come and speak to?
 
Dear Everyone,

You all have given my your advise and really appreciate this, I have now had a look at autodoc and can see many shock and springs for my Avantgarde
I have 17" original alloys right now and would like to go for 18" later in summer, that's why I am trying to ensure that I spend once.

I have just spoken to Loughton mercs and the cost is the same as I got from mercs @ newcastle, I was asked about the colour band and how many, but have been suggested to look at bilstein?

this is really confusing and very costly?

will a standard replacements allow me to put 18" on without any issues?

is there anyone here living in Essex or eats London, that I could come and speak to?
Rim size doesn't change with suspension
 
Dear Everyone,

You all have given my your advise and really appreciate this, I have now had a look at autodoc and can see many shock and springs for my Avantgarde
I have 17" original alloys right now and would like to go for 18" later in summer, that's why I am trying to ensure that I spend once.

I have just spoken to Loughton mercs and the cost is the same as I got from mercs @ newcastle, I was asked about the colour band and how many, but have been suggested to look at bilstein?

this is really confusing and very costly?

will a standard replacements allow me to put 18" on without any issues?

is there anyone here living in Essex or eats London, that I could come and speak to?
It’s a 210 E Class, it it really worth spending all that money? It probably rusted through in a few areas too.
 
Post #17 kind of hits the nail on the head. Basically just replace like for like or something of similar quality and set up . I looked at the Bilstein variants for my C55 AMG which is (in some circles) still classed as a bit 'sporty' and simply could not justify the price for what I use the car for . I have no doubt that would be far superior to the Konis I have fitted , but by how much for what I intend to use the car for.

They have been on with the new springs , top bearings (front), new rubber spacers (rear) for about 1000 miles now and the ride is fine.
 
thank you all , post#17 breaks my heart, when he says its just 210 E class, LOL---

My option is autodoc or similar, merc is way to much expensive near £1200 .

Everyone, you guys have been very kind with me with all support and advise.

I will let you all know what I have done in the next month and put up some photos.

also, how what about car meets, this this club organise some?
 

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