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Mercman786

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W204 C180k Sport
Loads of room, prestige image; fine turbo diesels.
Smaller petrol engines do tend to struggle.
Generally reliable, although cooling system needs maintenance, and the insulation on the wiring loom can perish, causing random electrical faults.

Listen out for squeaky brakes, especially on cars that have been used for towing.
Make sure the suspension has been serviced according to the schedule. The front suspension needs new bushes every 60,000 miles.
The 300TD is good, but I find the 320 CDI even better.

Go for - E320 CDI Avantgarde
Avoid - E200 Classic

E200 -
Urban - 21.2 mpg
Extra Urban - 39.2 mpg
Combined - 30.1 mpg
0-62 mph - 12.2 seconds
Top Speed - 124 mph
Cylinders - 4
Valves - 16v
Engine Power - 136 BHP

Insurance Group - 13
Co2 Emissions - 229 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E200 Komp (Facelift) -
Urban - 19.5 mpg
Extra Urban - 37.2 mpg
Combined - 28 mpg
0-62 mph - 10.1 seconds
Top Speed - 130 mph
Cylinders - 4
Valves - 16v
Engine Power - 163 BHP

Insurance Group - 14E
Co2 Emissions - 242 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E220 CDI -
Urban - 31 mpg
Extra Urban - 53.3 mpg
Combined - 42.2 mpg
0-62 mph - 10.4 seconds
Top Speed - 133 mph
Cylinders - 4
Valves - 16v
Engine Power - 143 BHP

Insurance Group - 14
Co2 Emissions - 177 g/km - 1 Year/£210.00 6 months/£115.50

E230 -
Urban - 25.9 mpg
Extra Urban - 42.8 mpg
Combined - 35.8 mpg
Engine Power - 150 BHP

Insurance Group - 14
Co2 Emissions - ? - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E240 -
Urban - 16.2 mpg
Extra Urban - 32.8 mpg
Combined - 23.9 mpg
0-62 mph - 10.5 seconds
Top Speed - 136 mph
Cylinders - 6
Valves - 18v
Engine Power - 170 BHP

Insurance Group - 15
Co2 Emissions - 283 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E240 (Facelift) -
Urban - 17 mpg
Extra Urban - 34 mpg
Combined - 24.8 mpg
EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME AS THE PRE-FACELIFT E240

Co2 Emissions - 274 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E250 D -
Urban - 32.5 mpg
Extra Urban - 51.4 mpg
Combined - 40.4 mpg
Engine Power - 113 BHP

Insurance Group - 13
Co2 Emissions - ? - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E280 -
Urban - 20.8 mpg
Extra Urban - 31.7 mpg
Combined - 25.9 mpg
Engine Power - 193 BHP

Insurance Group - 15
Co2 Emissions - ? - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E280 (Facelift) -
Urban - 17.4 mpg
Extra Urban - 34.9 mpg
Combined - 25.5 mpg
0-62 mph - 9.2 seconds
Top Speed - 140 mph
Cylinders - 6
Valves - 18v
Engine Power - 204 BHP

Insurance Group - 15E
Co2 Emissions - 266 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E300 TD -
Urban - 25.9 mpg
Extra Urban - 46.3 mpg
Combined - 35.8 mpg
0-62 mph - 8.9 seconds
Top Speed - 137 mph
Engine Power - 177 BHP

Insurance Group - 15
Co2 Emissions - 209 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E320 -
Urban - 17.9 mpg
Extra Urban - 35.8 mpg
Combined - 26.2 mpg
0-62 mph - 8.7 seconds
Top Speed - 143 mph
Cylinders - 6
Valves - 18v
Engine Power - 225 BHP

Insurance Group - 16E
Co2 Emissions - 259 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E320 CDI -
Urban - 25 mpg
Extra Urban - 47.9 mpg
Combined - 35.8 mpg
0-62 mph - 8.8 seconds
Top Speed - 141 mph
Cylinders - 6
Valves - 24v
Engine Power - 195 BHP

Insurance Group - 16E
Co2 Emissions - 209 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E430 -
Urban - 18.8 mpg
Extra Urban - 34.9 mpg
Combined - 25 mpg
0-62 mph - 6.6 seconds
Top Speed - 150 mph
Cylinders - 8
Valves - 24v
Engine Power - 279 BHP

Insurance Group - 17
Co2 Emissions - 270 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E36 AMG -
Urban - 21.1 mpg
Extra Urban - 33.7 mpg
Combined - 28.3 mpg
Engine Power - 272 BHP

Insurance Group - 19
Co2 Emissions - ? - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

E55 AMG -
Urban -12.1 mpg
Extra Urban - 17.8 mpg
Combined - 8.8 mpg
0-62 mph - 5.9 seconds
Top Speed - 155 mph
Cylinders - 8
Valves - 24v
Engine Power - 354 BHP

Insurance Group - 19
Co2 Emissions - 290 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00
 
The answer is very detailed, but what was the question?;)
 
The answer is very detailed, but what was the question?;)

No question lol, just seems to me a lot of people ask what to expect or look for or which one to go for on different Mercedes models, I just thought we could put all this info on one thread for everyone to see. If anybody wants to correct me on anything or add anything else, please feel free.
 
Homework I expect.
Btw the E320 V6 165kW M112 is a wee bit quicker 0-100kph variously 6.2 - 6.9s, and I've never seen it drop under 22mpg
E430 6.0s
E55-AMG 4.9s
 
Never heard of wiring loom issues on a 210 before.

Me neither :confused:

With the greatest of respect to the OP, a lot of these 'facts', 'data' and buying info looks inaccurate and fishy.

Can't believe any W210 buyers guide would cite wiring looms as a common issue, yet make no mention of rust?

Sorry - but this information is more misleading to the inexperienced, potential MB owner than useful - as helpful as the OP might be trying to be :eek:

Will
 
Me neither :confused:

With the greatest of respect to the OP, a lot of these 'facts', 'data' and buying info looks inaccurate and fishy.

Can't believe any W210 buyers guide would cite wiring looms as a common issue, yet make no mention of rust?

Sorry - but this information is more misleading to the inexperienced, potential MB owner than useful - as helpful as the OP might be trying to be :eek:

Will

Whoops, forgot to mention the rust. I got a lot of this info from Whatcar... Looks like I'm going to have to get my info from somewhere else...

Thanks for the heads up Will
 
I would personally prefer to hear from genuine members with the actual car, than whatcar, auto express, halfords etc.

Appreciate that you are quite new , but seems a tad strange building up posts so quickly.

If wrong then apology will be given.

Regards.
 
This is the reason I made this thread, so others can have their say about this car or the info supplied. Dont blame you though mate and totally understand where you are coming from.
 
The age of the W210 (and presumably other MB models of this age) is causing some problems with the wiring. The problem seems to be MB decided to solder rather than crimp. Probably thought it a good idea at the time, but they used lead-free solder which deteriorates and dry-joints.

Lead-free is obligatory in manufacturing these days but this is an evolutionary wrong-turn, and a known problem - home use can, and defence industry does (because it must work), continue to use tin/lead.

The wiring itself is in pretty good state, just some of the connections are becoming iffy.


What rust? - a little pitting along top of doors for some reason (water collects under the rubbers?), and wheel arches where stone chipped. Fertan.
I would check any car of this age for rust.
 
The age of the W210 (and presumably other MB models of this age) is causing some problems with the wiring. The problem seems to be MB decided to solder rather than crimp. Probably thought it a good idea at the time, but they used lead-free solder which deteriorates and dry-joints.

Lead-free is obligatory in manufacturing these days but this is an evolutionary wrong-turn, and a known problem - home use can, and defence industry does (because it must work), continue to use tin/lead.

The wiring itself is in pretty good state, just some of the connections are becoming iffy.


What rust? - a little pitting along top of doors for some reason (water collects under the rubbers?), and wheel arches where stone chipped. Fertan.
I would check any car of this age for rust.

Nope - the OP mentions insulation being an problem (perishing), this is not a W210 issue.

Pretty much all W210s rust, and have done since they were nearly new. This is by far the biggest issue for this car, in terms of it affecting all variants (pre/post facelift, saloon/estate, petrol/diesel...) and the cost of repair. Clearly cost MB millions of £££s in warranty/goodwill claims and has left a rusty legacy of cars for the world to see.

Will
 
The problem seems to be MB decided to solder rather than crimp. Probably thought it a good idea at the time, but they used lead-free solder which deteriorates and dry-joints...
Why would lead free solder deteriorate to dry joints?
That's like saying lead free paint isn't as good as the old stuff.

The only thing you need to know about the W210 is they rust, badly.
 
The looms on the E36 210 can brake down.
 
Why would lead free solder deteriorate to dry joints?
That's like saying lead free paint isn't as good as the old stuff.

The only thing you need to know about the W210 is they rust, badly.

Because lead-free solder does not wet the joints properly as does tin/lead.
Unlike lead-free paint it does not work properly. It oxidises and deteriorates, and unfortunately a car poses an aggressive environment for it. Lead-free solder is simply not as good as the old stuff, which is why the defence industry does not use it.

Like I said, the wiring looms are in good order.

Regarding rust, I've got light pitting under the rubber atop the doors, and stone chips around the wheel arches. For which there is Fertan. Not all W210 are rust buckets.
 
Regarding rust, I've got light pitting under the rubber atop the doors, and stone chips around the wheel arches. For which there is Fertan. Not all W210 are rust buckets.


No rust on my silver S210. Perfect condition.

It's for sale too. :)
 
Anyone who has seen and ridden in Ringway's 210 will know what a belter it is.

Fleet of foot, quiet of engine, and pristine condition.
 
I have a W210 (E220 Estate, 02) just done 200K. Have been looking for a newer (or possibly New) e class estate. Dealer offered me £1K in PE.
As I like the car so much- I am thinking the car isnt worth much - it might be just keeping to see how long it will go for and then look at another one. Any ideas on how much more am I likely to get from car in either mileage/time, now doing about 25/30K per year in it ( I service it every 10K)
 
I´m also pretty much rust free,apart from the odd chip that sometimes come with a car of its age. Oh and the E230 does 0-60.
 

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