w211 rear subframe bushings

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  1. Tradtx

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    Hi...

    There are 4 of these bushes where the subframe bolts to the vehicle. Has anyone done this? Does anyone have the tool? Is it the 40 pound tool on eBay that does this job?

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    I watched a you tube video just the other day showing a bloke in the USA using one of these with the arm still in the car.

    Worked fine.
     
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    More importantly getting the orientation of the new bush in the arm is critical so is placing the bolt back in the correct part of the slotted hole in the bush along with not tightening the bolts until the car is sat on all 4 wheels on the ground.
     
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    Isn't that for the track control arm though rather than the subframe bushes?
     
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    Matey on the video said they had to be tightened up on the ground otherwise you can get different ride heights. not don this on a Benz but vaguely remember it from VX Omega days.

    I'm no expert on this but someone on here probably is ....post a photo so we can see what bit you are dealing with.
     
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    Sub frame mounts can be tightened on the ground or in the air, it makes no difference as there is only one position for them with no adjustment, so just do whatever's the easiest.

    Lower control arms, in particular, should be torqued with the car in a normal driving position, wheels on the ground at normal height.
     
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    That tool is for the bushes on the front lower control arm and the bushes on the front thrust arm. It's incorrectly titled as a subframe bushing tool. I think this is a translation issue and relates to the fact the bushes it is designed to replace are bolted to the front subframe.

    There doesn't appear to be a reasonably priced special tool for the w211 rear subframe bushes yet.
     
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    Thank you for this. I'll be buying a press this weekend, do you think of the subframe was removed entirely that pressing them in and out would not be an issue?
     
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    I've never replaced subframe bushes myself, so can't give you an opinion of any worth I'm afraid.

    I did watch an indie do the same job on a w124 and it didn't look too bad of a job.

    It was basically jack one side of the car at the rear, place jack stands under the subframe, remove the subframe bolts on that side, then using the jacking point jack the car off the subframe.

    After that it was an air hammer to get the old bushes out.

    I'd imagine the complexity is largely down to whether you can get enough clearance without needing to remove the exhaust, parking brake cables , brake lines etc. If that lot need to be taken off first it would be a pig of a job.

    I'd certainly be interested how you get on as I'd like to do the same job on my s211 at some point. Probably not till the spring though when the weather is more conducive to working outdoors.
     
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    I'll be starting the front end tomorrow and do a proper assessment of the back then. If I can get away with it, I'll leave the back subframe bushes but I bought the rose bush that goes into the trailing arm and I've bought the bush that goes into the hub. I wanna fit bilsteins but will need to assess the rear of the car first, I'm on a bit of a spending spree with the car at the minute in terms of renewing the suspension. Watch out for the front end rebuild, also if you're sure you're going to be doing any bits look out for your parts next week in the black Friday sales.
     
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    No airmatic but thanks for looking out for us.
     

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