Wanted - E320CDI Estate 8 to 12 y.o. S210 / S211

[Stocho]

Not in competition with the thread just below as need an older car than in the thread below.

Requirements:
High Specs - so Elegance or Avantgarde
Minimum Mods - no chipping or other extreme mods, not lowered from standard spec.
Mileage ideally not much higher than 10k per year - but would consider higher mileage.

Price Line:
Year of the car in thousands - so if mid 2003 £3k. This is for a car in reasonable (but not neglected) condition for the age with long MOT and no error messages. If it has FSH (especially Mercedes), is in perfect rather than just reasonable condition then would be prepared to pay higher than that. If it has decent tyres (Michelin / Continental) of higher thread depth than 3mm, would be prepared to pay extra for the tyres almost on pro-rata basis between 3 and 8mm. (No price increase even for brand new Avons or other budget tyres - though might be bale to make a deal with you getting them back after I change them for proper tyres)

Location:
Stevenage - Cambridge line and, say 20 miles around it. For especially good bargains would be prepared to travel a bit further.

 

[ShinyF1]

Not in competition with the thread just below as need an older car than in the thread below.

Requirements:
High Specs - so Elegance or Avantgarde
Minimum Mods - no chipping or other extreme mods, not lowered from standard spec.
Mileage ideally not much higher than 10k per year - but would consider higher mileage.

Price Line:
Year of the car in thousands - so if mid 2003 £3k. This is for a car in reasonable (but not neglected) condition for the age with long MOT and no error messages. If it has FSH (especially Mercedes), is in perfect rather than just reasonable condition then would be prepared to pay higher than that. If it has decent tyres (Michelin / Continental) of higher thread depth than 3mm, would be prepared to pay extra for the tyres almost on pro-rata basis between 3 and 8mm. (No price increase even for brand new Avons or other budget tyres - though might be bale to make a deal with you getting them back after I change them for proper tyres)

Location:
Stevenage - Cambridge line and, say 20 miles around it. For especially good bargains would be prepared to travel a bit further.

I won't be offering you my 2000 model then using your pricing policy....

 

[Deleted member 37751]

I doubt you'll get a 'perfect' S211 for your budget, I'd stick to looking for a clean S210 around the £3k mark.

 

[Stocho]

I doubt you'll get a 'perfect' S211 for your budget, I'd stick to looking for a clean S210 around the £3k mark.

That is funny as you seem to be offering a car which is about on the price line I have specified. But is on the priceline rather than well bellow. So if you were closer would definitely consider your car.

Your car is 2004 - so base is £4k. You claim it is in very good condition with full service history justifying an uplift perhaps to £5k. Very high mileage - justifying a bump down - how much the bump down should be - perhaps £500 - perhaps £1k. But the car YOU are offering is about on my valuation line!

 

[Deleted member 37751]

That is funny as you seem to be offering a car which is about on the price line I have specified. But is on the priceline rather than well bellow. So if you were closer would definitely consider your car.

Your car is 2004 - so base is £4k. You claim it is in very good condition with full service history justifying an uplift perhaps to £5k. Very high mileage - justifying a bump down - how much the bump down should be - perhaps £500 - perhaps £1k. But the car YOU are offering is about on my valuation line!

Mine is, yes, but I doubt very much you'll get a 2003 S211 in any sort of condition for £3k. A breaker will pay about £2800-3000 for a 211 that has major issues (spec slightly dependant)

 

[developer]

You want to pro-rata the sale price based upon the tyre tread depth and possibly negotiate the return any non premium tyres after the sale .

It ain't gonna be easy (for the seller )

 

[Stocho]

Mine is, yes, but I doubt very much you'll get a 2003 S211 in any sort of condition for £3k. A breaker will pay about £2800-3000 for a 211 that has major issues (spec slightly dependant)

Well yours is S211, and is on the price line. http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/clas...2004-s211-e320-cdi-avantgarde-%A34-500-a.html


It might be the case that 2003 S211, especially those in poor conditions, are undervalued based on my price line compared to that breakers will pay for them. No problems with that - in this case breaking them is probably the most economical way of dealing with them.

 

[A210AMG]

Hello

Mines for sale, but using your guide it will not be the right price or car (one family owned since new though)

Also 20 mile radius to find a car? thats VERY narrow. I've been up and down the country for the right car.

Good luck, I think SPX's one for sale looks great, close to your budget and just run in

 

[Stocho]

You want to pro-rata the sale price based upon the tyre tread depth and possibly negotiate the return any non premium tyres after the sale .

It ain't gonna be easy (for the seller )

Are you joking or you completely misunderstood what I meant?

Basically what I am saying is that I am aware that most Mercedes of that age are coming with budget tyres and prices above are based on budget tyres. I am also saying that I do not care whether Avons are 8mm or 3mm as I am going to replace them anyway and if the seller wans he can even have them back!

BUT if you put top Continentals / Michelins just prior to sale valuation of the car will be increased accordingly - by about 500 pounds. So suppose you are selling S211 04 registered in superb condition with FSH etc. Base price would be 4k, say another 1k for the superb condition, making it 5k. If you put new top Michelins / Continentals just prior to sale and they still have full 8mm - that is another 500 pounds on top, making it 5.5k

 

[Stocho]

I won't be offering you my 2000 model then using your pricing policy....

Well the pricing policy is for 8-12 year old car. Not 13+. I am aware of S210 E320CDI 2000 (16/10/2000) in good conditions with FMSH, and even all MOTs Mercedes with reasonable mileage, Continental tyres etc, being sold for just under 2k by a trader with a warranty of SIX!!! (not the usual three) months.

So I can not see how a 2000 car in private sale (no warranty) can be valued at more than 2k.

 

[developer]

And a pro rata basis between 3mm and 8mm - what did you mean?

 

[Stocho]

And a pro rata basis between 3mm and 8mm - what did you mean?

If Continentals / Miccelins are 3mm - no extra value for decent brand tyres as they are supposed to be replaced at 3mm anyway (rather than legal minimum of 1.6mm).

If they are brand new 8mm the premium for tyres will be their full best price - about 500 pounds for 4 top quality Michelins / Continentals.

If they are 5.5mm - half way between 3 and 8 than the premium is 50% of 500 that is 250 pounds.

 

[developer]

If Continentals / Miccelins are 3mm - no extra value for decent brand tyres as they are supposed to be replaced at 3mm anyway (rather than legal minimum of 1.6mm).

If they are brand new 8mm the premium for tyres will be their full best price - about 500 pounds for 4 top quality Michelins / Continentals.

If they are 5.5mm - half way between 3 and 8 than the premium is 50% of 500 that is 250 pounds.

Ok, best of luck.

 

[Deleted member 55947]

Surely you're better off looking for a car at your maximum budget in order to get the best car you possibly can

 

[Stocho]

Surely you're better off looking for a car at your maximum budget in order to get the best car you possibly can

Younger than 8-9 year old and price rises become much steeper per year. I could confine myself to just 8-9 year old cars but the more restrictions the longer I will have to look for.

I am more or less indifferent where on the price line I buy (i.e. indifferent what age in the 8-12 year old range it is as long as it is reflected in the price as per my valuation line).

I do not have a budget as such and most certainly not a fixed budget. I am just trying to maximise the value I am getting.

Buying 2005 car for 6k has its obvious benefits that I am getting a better car that will last for longer. If it needs new springs / discs etc I will have that feeling "Oh I am splashing on new bits but they will be just 10% worn out when scrap the car". However I will have to service it and if engine / gearbox / some other major problem occurs that is pretty much 6k gone.

Buying 2001 car for 2k obviously has disadvantages of having an old car which is not just worn out but morally obsolete to a certain extent. But I could expect to run it for the next 2 years without servicing at minimal cost for the next 2 years than scrap and but a much newer car. If something goes wrong it is 2k - not 6k.